From: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Kyle Swenson <kyle.swenson@est.tech>,
Dent Project <dentproject@linuxfoundation.org>,
kernel@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/12] net: pse-pd: Add support for event reporting using devm_regulator_irq_helper
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 16:10:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241004161041.0eb3aad6@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zv_1ZzwQJ-P36mt6@pengutronix.de>
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 16:02:15 +0200
Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2024 at 03:56:33PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 05:22:58PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> [...]
> [...]
> [...]
> > >
> > > I think we will need two event, the base regulator event, and a
> > > networking event. Since it is a regulator, sending a normal regulator
> > > event makes a lot of sense. But mapping that regulator event to a
> > > netns:ifnam is going to be hard. Anything wanting to take an action is
> > > probably going to want to use ethtool, and so needs to be in the
> > > correct netns, etc. But it does get messy if there is some sort of
> > > software driven prioritisation going on, some daemon needs to pick a
> > > victim to reduce power to, and the interfaces are spread over multiple
> > > network namespaces.
> > >
> > > What i don't know is if we can use an existing event, or we should add
> > > a new one. Often rtnetlink_event() is used:
> > >
> > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.12-rc1/source/net/core/rtnetlink.c#L6679
> > >
> > > but without some PSE information in it, it would be hard to know why
> > > it was sent. So we probably either want a generic ethtool event, or a
> > > PSE event.
> >
> > Hm... assuming we have following scenario:
> >
> > .--------- PI 1
> > / .--------- PI 2
> > .========= PSE /----------( PI 3 ) NNS red
> > // \----------( PI 4 ) NNS blue
> > Main supply // `---------( PI 5 ) NNS blue
> > o================´--- System, CPU
> >
> > In this case we seems to have a new challenge:
> >
> > On one side, a system wide power manager should see and mange all ports.
> > On other side, withing a name space, we should be able to play in a
> > isolated sand box. There is a reason why it is isolated. So, we should
> > be able to sandbox power delivery and port prios too. Means, by creating
> > network names space, we will need a power names space.
> >
> > I can even imagine a use case: an admin limited access to a switch for
> > developer. A developer name space is created with PSE budget and max
> > prios available for this name space. This will prevent users from DoSing
> > system critical ports.
> >
> > At this point, creating a power name space will an overkill for this
> > patch set, so it should be enough to allow controlling prios over
> > ethtool per port and isolation support if needed.
Yes, I will add simple ethtool notification for now to report events on each
interfaces.
> Oh, sorry, i'm too tired. Too many words are missing in my answer ...
Nearly the weekend!! Rest well!
Regards,
--
Köry Maincent, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-04 14:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-02 16:27 [PATCH net-next 00/12] Add support for PSE port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH net-next 01/12] net: pse-pd: Remove unused pse_ethtool_get_pw_limit function declaration Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:24 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 3:25 ` Kalesh Anakkur Purayil
2024-10-09 4:37 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH net-next 02/12] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Correct boolean evaluation for bitmask checks Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH net-next 03/12] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Simplify function returns by removing redundant checks Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:26 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 4:38 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 04/12] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for power limit and measurement features Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:31 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 5:02 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-09 9:05 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-09 15:16 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-09 16:17 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 05/12] net: pse-pd: Add support for getting and setting port priority Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:34 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 5:04 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 06/12] net: ethtool: Add PSE new port priority support feature Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:37 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-05 6:26 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-07 9:30 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-07 14:10 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-08 10:23 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-08 12:56 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-08 15:01 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-08 16:31 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 07/12] netlink: specs: Expand the PSE netlink command with C33 prio attributes Kory Maincent
2024-10-04 10:44 ` Donald Hunter
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 08/12] net: pse-pd: pd692x0: Add support for PSE PI priority feature Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 8:01 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-08 13:57 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-08 14:21 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-08 14:53 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-08 16:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 7:16 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-09 16:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 09/12] net: pse-pd: tps23881: " Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 16:26 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 10/12] net: pse-pd: Register regulator even for undescribed PSE PIs Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 8:19 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 11/12] net: pse-pd: Add support for event reporting using devm_regulator_irq_helper Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:52 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 8:28 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-03 12:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 13:33 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-03 15:22 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-04 13:56 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-04 14:02 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-04 14:10 ` Kory Maincent [this message]
2024-10-03 0:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-02 16:28 ` [PATCH net-next 12/12] net: pse-pd: tps23881: Add support for PSE events and interrupts Kory Maincent
2024-10-02 23:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-03 8:29 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-08 17:03 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-09 7:25 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-09 8:25 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-09 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next 00/12] Add support for PSE port priority Kyle Swenson
2024-10-09 15:04 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-09 17:42 ` Kyle Swenson
2024-10-10 5:42 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-15 9:43 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-17 10:35 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-18 6:14 ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-18 12:37 ` Kory Maincent
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