From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAFFE191; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728951963; cv=none; b=f50l6KSdr9GrpZppJT0RKG3cAtFoe0e1wC67YVMXK4Se+jZTKm1U9MG0peplYnzhFju6nKaRoVkCjTUdAXUD6+4eX+GeuFJmgnrnBQgWTeko2xqEEgaYLAvd7b3DyuD7KOQc+N/gPNyhENnf2DdwDIClB0RZj56WXOl3uzMMxyM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1728951963; c=relaxed/simple; bh=1irKL8feAdHhHDFB2eddIyClO0Y4Pse8KtbdmmCG3HA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pIqGDTEzyWQYVomtTZzIGZfiT005jZDK5YZs+JAlozTtr9LDirrJe4PLU1ywAwyu662JzESnXDMSv8sHwZrUHl4ZtmZm9+FG36zVhJu6zLnbVWzTJTgM4PWnsFdnaYYeFjRs2B0kcuu1tK279OsS3iIhyrohAfNGdozcZY4JQCc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=C4Itt4d5; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="C4Itt4d5" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00F05C4CEC3; Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:26:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1728951963; bh=1irKL8feAdHhHDFB2eddIyClO0Y4Pse8KtbdmmCG3HA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=C4Itt4d5L7KqM0w3J6RXpsg3lo6dF6jBZaOyZXMQjaUed7m1JLrC3LQHwl/bVyDeD 6rYX2+DYleR8wwxg7r1FIGnz4RvIaxBc0QC798/OcxYwo0etj/4ZirbDvTQiAGTtK2 1cMOQhttUTGR1b8cr4nwXJ2W1ZwP5bhW17PGaFdof3WxWJP7tv1cnsZOP/0jcCfgsh 5W6v9NqXMhyDmrhdbDZblc3UcKjumhqxGtbKXSi4VgdfccJWIXU/Lt4szPpFJf4YEW 5EsttwSgRhXlQYMSvBqoiu/Xkfoty3aUdp6/FkKrgBX3w8NyA7cIGWH288HuV6Ki/P pMI3pP9itGSMA== Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 17:26:02 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Lorenz Brun Cc: "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] net: add config option for tunnel fallback devs Message-ID: <20241014172602.7c55a4d4@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20241009110421.41187-1-lorenz@monogon.tech> References: <20241009110421.41187-1-lorenz@monogon.tech> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 13:04:19 +0200 Lorenz Brun wrote: > This adds a Kconfig option to set the default behavior regarding tunnel > fallback devices. > For setups where the initial namespace should also not have these, the > only preexisting option is to use a kernel command line option which > needs to be passed to every kernel invocation, which can be inconvenient > in certain setups. > If a kernel is built for a specific environment this knob allows > disabling the compatibility behavior outright, without requiring any > additional actions. I don't hate the idea, but could you comment a bit more on practical usability of such a change? Whatever software depends on the new behavior will likely not work with distro kernels, right? Did you consider kernel boot param?