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[204.195.96.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 41be03b00d2f7-7edc8a4780esm6405935a12.86.2024.10.28.16.40.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 Oct 2024 16:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 16:40:55 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: David Ahern , Paolo Abeni , Joe Damato , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: yaml gen NL families support in iproute2? Message-ID: <20241028164055.3059fad4@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20241028151534.1ef5cbb5@kernel.org> References: <61184cdf-6afc-4b9b-a3d2-b5f8478e3cbb@kernel.org> <42743fe6-476a-4b88-b6f4-930d048472f9@redhat.com> <20241028135852.2f224820@kernel.org> <845f8156-e7f5-483f-9e07-439808bde7a2@kernel.org> <20241028151534.1ef5cbb5@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 15:15:34 -0700 Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 15:29:35 -0600 David Ahern wrote: > > On 10/28/24 2:58 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > > I was hoping for iproute2 integration a couple of years ago, but > > > David Ahern convinced me that it's not necessary. Apparently he > > > changed his mind now, but I remain convinced that packaging > > > YNL CLI is less effort and will ensure complete coverage with > > > no manual steps. > > > > I not recall any comment about it beyond cli.py in its current form > > is a total PITA to use as it lacks help and a man page. > > I can only find this thread now: > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240302193607.36d7a015@kernel.org/ > Could be a misunderstanding, but either way, documenting an existing > tool seems like strictly less work than recreating it from scratch. Is the toolset willing to maintain the backward compatibility guarantees that iproute2 has now? Bpf support was an example of how not to do it.