From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 342BA8F5E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1730942513; cv=none; b=IOQWZLKJTnbk/79xuHGuRfLct3uKNxXpbHoS5/jk8mlMZLm72zgvbZCo5tlmSUVQ1jNvJKTknY81xe4LeLN5l2CTJGCWh/CjGZtqWHTYxM+ZdiPBs9UnoG9S1M7rHodaVn9J6TotF0iQXCGYdvSafFwP2E2pnB1VWnWQp6buv40= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1730942513; c=relaxed/simple; bh=pkHD/OtCznwZzpggjAFdi8ei7lk7zqLHQRmlMD2nkBc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YRf1KAeqEqFutEVNH86wSsyjK3Uu3OJBhUnT2ZJOPfIN+ck+TFN2Cy7tB8LiEA2WAsJxAWmoKRhWDkODQtOR4PrKwLDSt/woDublNHdvDWWEJJ1jNNVbjxeTlRMQk2bvLNei/kqSseflGKnSez/4UvxmEi8wRApc8LgffrFq3aY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=ja9eSf/Q; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="ja9eSf/Q" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E461C4CEC6; Thu, 7 Nov 2024 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1730942512; bh=pkHD/OtCznwZzpggjAFdi8ei7lk7zqLHQRmlMD2nkBc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=ja9eSf/QgHWjbxE6z2Ovitn7CYhEgzQrz4/cqu6YQa5LgBhzfRe4DaKf4EWX54I9g vU3dEIGe1EZhJ/YV9sMpwdOI9yium0tdkDIVm4eiysfEJDhwYnAUMAdqmBPqmj9LaE 9NpAe/OWCEoC6/VR8AG3qpw8eYFM/1QW8THk7wryjQqglzGmOOJHMEqy5nsL+ggNgy vXqLlHmRt9PqarvZ1mdMBgQqwcc4Lvn/ZmJalb2yK1JNx0NKQjeZeQw0TOfvQTMt44 bl9ACA/fYs6LE03jx/Cd5lpSOUdMjkZkj3sNTKBIfZZzq9DpNAxsCr3DhZRtuivlKv ztGjt5BY+/Mgw== Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:21:51 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Jiri Pirko Cc: Hangbin Liu , Jay Vosburgh , netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Question]: should we consider arp missed max during bond_ab_arp_probe()? Message-ID: <20241106172151.13cd3964@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:40:39 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote: > >> Out of curiosity, is anyone still using AB mode in real life? And if > > > >Based on our analyse, in year 2024, there are 53.8% users using 802.3ad mode, > >41.6% users using active-backup mode. 2.5% users using round-robin mode. > > > >> yes, any idea why exacly? > > > >I think they just want to make sure there is a backup for the link. > > Why don't they use LACP? You can have backup there as well. FWIW I was asked to help with A/B setups in the past for facility networks (building sensor etc). Those guys wanted to do as little networking as possible, and had very low bandwidth needs but still wanted the redundancy. Basic active/backup was a good fit.