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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v19 03/10] ptp: Add phc source and helpers to register specific PTP clock or get information
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 18:22:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241112182226.2a6c8bab@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241112111232.1637f814@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390>

On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:12:32 +0100 Kory Maincent wrote:
> > Storing the info about the "user" (netdev, phydev) in the "provider"
> > (PHC) feels too much like a layering violation. Why do you need this?  
> 
> The things is that, the way to manage the phc depends on the "user".
> ndo_hwtstamp_set for netdev and phy_hwtstamp_set for phydev.
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.11.6/source/net/core/dev_ioctl.c#L323
> 
> Before PHC was managed by the driver "user" so there was no need for this
> information as the core only gives the task to the single "user". This didn't
> really works when there is more than one user possible on the net topology.

I don't understand. I'm complaining storing netdev state in 
struct ptp_clock. It's perfectly fine to add the extra info to netdev
and PHY topology maintained by the core.

> > In general I can't shake the feeling that we're trying to configure 
> > the "default" PHC for a narrow use case, while the goal should be 
> > to let the user pick the PHC per socket.  
> 
> Indeed PHC per socket would be neat but it would need a lot more work and I am
> even not sure how it should be done. Maybe with a new cmsg structure containing
> the information of the PHC provider?
> In any case the new ETHTOOL UAPI is ready to support multiple PHC at the same
> time when it will be supported.
> This patch series is something in the middle, being able to enable all the PHC
> on a net topology but only one at a time.

I understand, I don't want to push you towards implementing all that.
But if we keep that in mind as the north star we should try to align
this default / temporary solution. If the socket API takes a PHC ID
as an input, the configuration we take in should also be maintained
as "int default_phc", not pointers to things.

IOW I'm struggling to connect the dots how the code you're adding now
will be built _upon_ rather than _on the side_ of when socket PHC
selection is in place.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30 13:54 [PATCH net-next v19 00/10] net: Make timestamping selectable Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 01/10] net: Make dev_get_hwtstamp_phylib accessible Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 02/10] net: Make net_hwtstamp_validate accessible Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 03/10] ptp: Add phc source and helpers to register specific PTP clock or get information Kory Maincent
2024-11-11 23:06   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-12 10:12     ` Kory Maincent
2024-11-13  2:22       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-11-13 10:38         ` Kory Maincent
2024-11-14  0:39           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-14 10:46             ` Kory Maincent
2024-11-15  1:39               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-15  9:12                 ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 04/10] net: Add the possibility to support a selected hwtstamp in netdevice Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 05/10] net: netdevsim: ptp_mock: Convert to netdev_ptp_clock_register Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 06/10] net: macb: " Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 07/10] net: ptp: Move ptp_clock_index() to builtin symbol Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 08/10] net: ethtool: tsinfo: Add support for reading tsinfo for a specific hwtstamp provider Kory Maincent
2024-11-11 23:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 09/10] net: ethtool: Add support for tsconfig command to get/set hwtstamp config Kory Maincent
2024-11-09  1:43   ` Vadim Fedorenko
2024-11-12 10:16     ` Kory Maincent
2024-10-30 13:54 ` [PATCH net-next v19 10/10] netlink: specs: Enhance tsinfo netlink attributes and add a tsconfig set command Kory Maincent

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