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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Cc: David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>,
	Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>,
	Pedro Tammela <pctammela@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 11/17] io_uring/zcrx: implement zerocopy receive pp memory provider
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:24:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241210162412.6f04a505@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa20a0fd-75fb-4859-bd0e-74d0098daae8@gmail.com>

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 04:45:23 +0000 Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> > Can you say more about the IO_ZC_RX_UREF bias? net_iov is not the page
> > struct, we can add more fields. In fact we have 8B of padding in it
> > that can be allocated without growing the struct. So why play with  
> 
> I guess we can, though it's growing it for everyone not just
> io_uring considering how indexing works, i.e. no embedding into
> a larger struct.

Right but we literally have 8B of "padding". We only need 32b counter
here, so there will still be 4B of unused space. Not to mention that
net_iov is not cacheline aligned today. Space is not a concern.

> > biases? You can add a 32b atomic counter for how many refs have been
> > handed out to the user.  
> 
> This set does it in a stupid way, but the bias allows to coalesce
> operations with it into a single atomic. Regardless, it can be
> placed separately, though we still need a good way to optimise
> counting. Take a look at my reply with questions in the v7 thread,
> I outlined what can work quite well in terms of performance but
> needs a clear api for that from net/

I was thinking along the lines of transferring the ownership of
the frags. But let's work on that as a follow up. Atomic add on 
an exclusively owned cacheline is 2 cycles on AMD if I'm looking
correctly.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-11  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-04 17:21 [PATCH net-next v8 00/17] io_uring zero copy rx David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 01/17] net: prefix devmem specific helpers David Wei
2024-12-04 21:00   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-04 21:24     ` David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 02/17] net: generalise net_iov chunk owners David Wei
2024-12-09 17:01   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 03/17] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers David Wei
2024-12-10  3:02   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10 16:31     ` David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 04/17] net: prepare for non devmem TCP memory providers David Wei
2024-12-09 17:04   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-10  3:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  3:53     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-10  4:06       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  4:15         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 05/17] net: page_pool: add ->scrub mem provider callback David Wei
2024-12-09 17:08   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-09 17:24     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 06/17] net: page pool: add helper creating area from pages David Wei
2024-12-10  3:29   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  3:58     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 07/17] net: page_pool: introduce page_pool_mp_return_in_cache David Wei
2024-12-09 17:15   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-09 17:28     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-10  3:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  4:31     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-11  0:06       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 08/17] net: add helper executing custom callback from napi David Wei
2024-12-10  3:44   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  4:11     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 09/17] io_uring/zcrx: add interface queue and refill queue David Wei
2024-12-06 16:05   ` Simon Horman
2024-12-09 23:50     ` David Wei
2024-12-10  3:49   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  4:03     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-10  4:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 10/17] io_uring/zcrx: add io_zcrx_area David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 11/17] io_uring/zcrx: implement zerocopy receive pp memory provider David Wei
2024-12-10  4:01   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  4:45     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-10  4:50       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-11  0:24       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-12-11 14:42         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-12  1:38           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-12 13:42             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-12-10 16:55     ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 12/17] io_uring/zcrx: add io_recvzc request David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 13/17] io_uring/zcrx: set pp memory provider for an rx queue David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 14/17] io_uring/zcrx: add copy fallback David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 15/17] io_uring/zcrx: throttle receive requests David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 16/17] net: add documentation for io_uring zcrx David Wei
2024-12-09 17:51   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-10 16:53     ` David Wei
2024-12-09 17:52   ` Mina Almasry
2024-12-10 16:54     ` David Wei
2024-12-04 17:21 ` [PATCH net-next v8 17/17] io_uring/zcrx: add selftest David Wei
2024-12-04 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 00/17] io_uring zero copy rx Pavel Begunkov

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