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From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Kory Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolò Veronese" <nicveronese@gmail.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	mwojtas@chromium.org, "Antoine Tenart" <atenart@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] net: phy: Introduce a port representation
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 08:25:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250108082507.0402f158@fedora.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z31ZOjLcE34CNj0S@pengutronix.de>

On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 17:41:30 +0100
Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 05:22:51PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > >   I have however seen devices that have a 1G PHY connected to a RJ45
> > > port with 2 lanes only, thus limiting the max achievable speed to 100M.
> > > Here, we would explicietly describe the port has having 2 lanes.   
> 
> I can confirm existence of this kind of designs. One industrial real life
> example: a SoC connected to 3 port Gigabit KSZ switch. One port is
> typical RJ45 connector. Other port is RJ11 connector.
> 
> The speed can be reduced by using max-speed property. But i can't
> provide any user usable diagnostic information just by saying pair A or
> B is broken.
> 
> This is one of the reasons why i propose detailed description.

While I get the point, I'm wondering if it's relevant to expose this
diag information for the user. As this is a HW design feature we're
representing, and it's described in devicetree, the information that the
HW design is wrong or uncommon is already known. So, exposing this to
the user ends-up being a pretty way to display plain devicetree data,
without much added value from the PHY stack ? Or am I missing the point
?

I would see some value if we could detect that pairs are miswired or
disconnected at runtime, then report this to user. Here the information
is useful.

The minimal information needed by software is in that case "how many
working pairs are connected between the PHY and the connector", and
possibly "are they swapped ?" but I think we already have a DT property
for that ?

Maxime

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20 20:14 [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] net: phy: Introduce a port representation Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-20 20:15 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 1/5] net: ethtool: common: Make BaseT a 4-lanes mode Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-20 20:15 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 2/5] net: ethtool: Introduce ETHTOOL_LINK_MEDIUM_* values Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-20 20:15 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 3/5] net: ethtool: Export the link_mode_params definitions Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-20 20:15 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 4/5] net: phy: Introduce PHY ports representation Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-20 20:15 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 5/5] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for phy_port representation Maxime Chevallier
2024-12-22 15:59 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] net: phy: Introduce a port representation Oleksij Rempel
2024-12-22 18:54   ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-02 10:48     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-02 17:03       ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-07 13:26         ` Kory Maincent
2025-01-07 14:02           ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-07 14:43             ` Kory Maincent
2025-01-07 14:53               ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-07 15:14             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-07 15:54               ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-07 15:12           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-01-07 16:13             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-07 16:15             ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-01-07 16:22               ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-07 16:41                 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-07 16:49                   ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-08  7:25                   ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2025-01-08  8:12                     ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-01-04 22:23     ` Kory Maincent
2025-01-06 18:17       ` Oleksij Rempel

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