From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Ryazanov <ryazanov.s.a@gmail.com>
Cc: "Maciej S. Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>,
M Chetan Kumar <m.chetan.kumar@intel.com>,
Loic Poulain <loic.poulain@linaro.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] net: wwan: iosm: Fix hibernation by re-binding the driver around it
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 13:51:09 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250108195109.GA224965@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c634d5bc-7a60-436a-94d8-c8a4fb0e0c26@gmail.com>
[+cc Rafael, linux-pm because they *are* PM experts :)]
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 02:15:28AM +0200, Sergey Ryazanov wrote:
> On 08.01.2025 01:45, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 01:13:41AM +0200, Sergey Ryazanov wrote:
> > > On 05.01.2025 19:39, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote:
> > > > Currently, the driver is seriously broken with respect to the
> > > > hibernation (S4): after image restore the device is back into
> > > > IPC_MEM_EXEC_STAGE_BOOT (which AFAIK means bootloader stage) and needs
> > > > full re-launch of the rest of its firmware, but the driver restore
> > > > handler treats the device as merely sleeping and just sends it a
> > > > wake-up command.
> > > >
> > > > This wake-up command times out but device nodes (/dev/wwan*) remain
> > > > accessible.
> > > > However attempting to use them causes the bootloader to crash and
> > > > enter IPC_MEM_EXEC_STAGE_CD_READY stage (which apparently means "a crash
> > > > dump is ready").
> > > >
> > > > It seems that the device cannot be re-initialized from this crashed
> > > > stage without toggling some reset pin (on my test platform that's
> > > > apparently what the device _RST ACPI method does).
> > > >
> > > > While it would theoretically be possible to rewrite the driver to tear
> > > > down the whole MUX / IPC layers on hibernation (so the bootloader does
> > > > not crash from improper access) and then re-launch the device on
> > > > restore this would require significant refactoring of the driver
> > > > (believe me, I've tried), since there are quite a few assumptions
> > > > hard-coded in the driver about the device never being partially
> > > > de-initialized (like channels other than devlink cannot be closed,
> > > > for example).
> > > > Probably this would also need some programming guide for this hardware.
> > > >
> > > > Considering that the driver seems orphaned [1] and other people are
> > > > hitting this issue too [2] fix it by simply unbinding the PCI driver
> > > > before hibernation and re-binding it after restore, much like
> > > > USB_QUIRK_RESET_RESUME does for USB devices that exhibit a similar
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > Tested on XMM7360 in HP EliteBook 855 G7 both with s2idle (which uses
> > > > the existing suspend / resume handlers) and S4 (which uses the new code).
> > > >
> > > > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/c248f0b4-2114-4c61-905f-466a786bdebb@leemhuis.info/
> > > > [2]:
> > > > https://github.com/xmm7360/xmm7360-pci/issues/211#issuecomment-1804139413
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Maciej S. Szmigiero <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>
> > >
> > > Generally looks good to me. Lets wait for approval from PCI
> > > maintainers to be sure that there no unexpected side effects.
> >
> > I have nothing useful to contribute here. Seems like kind of a
> > mess. But Intel claims to maintain this, so it would be nice if
> > they would step up and make this work nicely.
>
> Suddenly, Intel lost their interest in the modems market and, as
> Maciej mentioned, the driver was abandon for a quite time now. The
> author no more works for Intel. You will see the bounce.
Well, that's unfortunate :) Maybe step 0 is to remove the Intel
entry from MAINTAINERS for this driver.
> Bjorn, could you suggest how to deal easily with the device that is
> incapable to seamlessly recover from hibernation? I am totally
> hopeless regarding the PM topic. Or is the deep driver rework the
> only option?
I'm pretty PM-illiterate myself. Based on
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/sleep-states.rst?id=v6.12#n109,
I assume that when we resume after hibernate, devices are in the same
state as after a fresh boot, i.e., the state driver .probe() methods
see.
So I assume that some combination of dev_pm_ops methods must be able
to do basically the same as .probe() to get the device usable again
after it was completely powered off and back on.
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/driver-api/pm/devices.rst?id=v6.12#n506
mentions .freeze(), .thaw(), .restore(), etc, but the fact that few
drivers set those pointers and all the nice macros for setting pm ops
(SYSTEM_SLEEP_PM_OPS, NOIRQ_SYSTEM_SLEEP_PM_OPS, etc) only take
suspend and resume functions makes me think most drivers must handle
hibernation in the same .suspend() and .resume() functions they use
for non-hibernate transitions.
Since all drivers have to cope with devices needing to be
reinitialized after hibernate, I would look around to see how other
drivers do it and see if you can do it similarly.
Sorry this is still really a non-answer.
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-08 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-05 17:39 [PATCH v2] net: wwan: iosm: Fix hibernation by re-binding the driver around it Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-01-07 23:13 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2025-01-07 23:45 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-08 0:15 ` Sergey Ryazanov
2025-01-08 19:51 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-01-08 20:03 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-01-08 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-01-08 20:18 ` Maciej S. Szmigiero
2025-01-08 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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