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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Guangguan Wang <guangguan.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	wenjia@linux.ibm.com, jaka@linux.ibm.com,
	alibuda@linux.alibaba.com, tonylu@linux.alibaba.com,
	guwen@linux.alibaba.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org, horms@kernel.org,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandra Winter <wintera@linux.ibm.com>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net/smc: use the correct ndev to find pnetid by pnetid table
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 15:19:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250210151917.394e8567.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3dc68650-904c-4a1d-adc4-172e771f640c@linux.alibaba.com>

On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 19:53:15 +0800
Guangguan Wang <guangguan.wang@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:

> > Imagine the following you have your nice little setup with a PNETID on
> > a non-leaf and a base_ndev that has no PNETID. Then your HW admin
> > configures a PNETID to your base_ndev, a different one. Suddenly
> > your ndev PNETID is ignored for reasons not obvious to you. Yes it is
> > similar to having a software PNETID on the base_ndev and getting it
> > overruled by a HW PNETID, but much less obvious IMHO. I am wondering if there are any scenarios that require setting different  
> pnetids for different net devices in one netdev hierarchy. If no, maybe
> we should limit that only one pnetid can be set to one netdev hierarchy.

I wonder what topologies and changes to topologies are possible. If
changes to a topology are possible then making sure there is only one
PNETID within a netdev hierarchy can be difficult, as we would need
to prevent changing the topology if a device has a not PNETID. (E.g.
we first set a pnetid when the netdev is still not in a hierarchy
and then try to put it into the hierarchy that already has a different
PNETID within). Regarding allowable topologies, using your ASCII-art.

I think you could add 2 Pods with an IPVLAN eth0 (Pod) on top of eth1
(host) each. Those would be in a single hierarchy I guess, but I guess
you would still want to be able to set (most likely the same) PNETID
on each.

Bottom line is, this approach looks tricky to me. Maybe with a crisper
explanation on what are these upper-lower links for. Maybe I am
overgeneralizing here.

Regards,
Halil

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10 14:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-27  4:04 [PATCH net] net/smc: use the correct ndev to find pnetid by pnetid table Guangguan Wang
2025-01-04 16:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-07  2:17 ` Wen Gu
2025-01-07  8:44 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-07 19:32   ` Halil Pasic
2025-01-08  4:57     ` Guangguan Wang
2025-01-09  3:04       ` Halil Pasic
2025-01-10  5:43         ` Guangguan Wang
2025-01-14 12:07           ` Halil Pasic
2025-01-15 11:53             ` Guangguan Wang
2025-02-10 11:16               ` Guangguan Wang
2025-02-10 13:13                 ` Wenjia Zhang
2025-02-10 14:20                 ` Halil Pasic
2025-02-10 14:19               ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2025-02-10 13:52           ` Halil Pasic
2025-02-11  3:44             ` Guangguan Wang
2025-03-03 14:24               ` Halil Pasic
2025-03-04  2:39                 ` Guangguan Wang
2025-01-08 16:00     ` Alexandra Winter
2025-01-10  6:39       ` Guangguan Wang

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