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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
To: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>,
	Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@oracle.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@broadcom.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Itay Avraham <itayavr@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Leonid Bloch <lbloch@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	"Nelson, Shannon" <shannon.nelson@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce fwctl subystem
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2025 09:33:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250211093329.00000b95@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a0f1648f-eefb-455c-b264-169cb67a7486@intel.com>

On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 14:58:51 -0700
Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com> wrote:

> On 2/6/25 5:13 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > [
> > Many people were away around the holiday period, but work is back in full
> > swing now with Dave already at v3 on his CXL work over the past couple
> > weeks. We are looking at a good chance of reaching this merge window. I
> > will work out some shared branches with CXL and get it into linux-next
> > once all three drivers can be assembled and reviews seem to be concluding.
> > 
> > There are couple open notes
> >  - Greg was interested in a new name, but nobody offered any bikesheds
> >  - I would like a co-maintainer  
> 
> I volunteer as tribute. :) 
> 
> I got the CXL series rebased and tested on top of this series. So you can add
> Tested-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
> for the core FWCTL bits in the series.

This is an area I plan to keep reviewing (and adding more use cases), so feel
free to add me as a Reviewer or Maintainer (depending on how guilty you want
me to feel if there is a backlog to review :)  Will save me making sure to
track these down as they get posted in different subsystems.

Thanks,

Jonathan

> 
> I'll post the CXL FWCTL series v4 shortly.
> 
> DJ
> 
> > ]
> > 
> > fwctl is a new subsystem intended to bring some common rules and order to
> > the growing pattern of exposing a secure FW interface directly to
> > userspace. Unlike existing places like RDMA/DRM/VFIO/uacce that are
> > exposing a device for datapath operations fwctl is focused on debugging,
> > configuration and provisioning of the device. It will not have the
> > necessary features like interrupt delivery to support a datapath.
> > 
> > This concept is similar to the long standing practice in the "HW" RAID
> > space of having a device specific misc device to manage the RAID
> > controller FW. fwctl generalizes this notion of a companion debug and
> > management interface that goes along with a dataplane implemented in an
> > appropriate subsystem.
> > 
> > The need for this has reached a critical point as many users are moving to
> > run lockdown enabled kernels. Several existing devices have had long
> > standing tooling for management that relied on /sys/../resource0 or PCI
> > config space access which is not permitted in lockdown. A major point of
> > fwctl is to define and document the rules that a device must follow to
> > expose a lockdown compatible RPC.
> > 
> > Based on some discussion fwctl splits the RPCs into four categories
> > 
> > 	FWCTL_RPC_CONFIGURATION
> > 	FWCTL_RPC_DEBUG_READ_ONLY
> > 	FWCTL_RPC_DEBUG_WRITE
> > 	FWCTL_RPC_DEBUG_WRITE_FULL
> > 
> > Where the latter two trigger a new TAINT_FWCTL, and the final one requires
> > CAP_SYS_RAWIO - excluding it from lockdown. The device driver and its FW
> > would be responsible to restrict RPCs to the requested security scope,
> > while the core code handles the tainting and CAP checks.
> > 
> > For details see the final patch which introduces the documentation.
> > 
> > The CXL FWCTL driver is now in it own series on v3:
> >  https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250204220430.4146187-1-dave.jiang@intel.com
> > 
> > I'm expecting a 3rd driver (from Shannon @ Pensando) to be posted right
> > away, the github version I saw looked good. I've got soft commitments for
> > about 6 drivers in total now.
> > 
> > There have been three LWN articles written discussing various aspects of
> > this proposal:
> > 
> >  https://lwn.net/Articles/955001/
> >  https://lwn.net/Articles/969383/
> >  https://lwn.net/Articles/990802/
> > 
> > A really giant ksummit thread preceding a discussion at the Maintainer
> > Summit:
> > 
> >  https://lore.kernel.org/ksummit/668c67a324609_ed99294c0@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch/
> > 
> > Several have expressed general support for this concept:
> > 
> >  AMD/Pensando - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-rdma/20241205222818.44439-1-shannon.nelson@amd.com
> >  Broadcom Networking - https://lore.kernel.org/r/Zf2n02q0GevGdS-Z@C02YVCJELVCG
> >  Christoph Hellwig - https://lore.kernel.org/r/Zcx53N8lQjkpEu94@infradead.org
> >  Daniel Vetter - https://lore.kernel.org/r/ZrHY2Bds7oF7KRGz@phenom.ffwll.local
> >  Enfabrica - https://lore.kernel.org/r/9cc7127f-8674-43bc-b4d7-b1c4c2d96fed@kernel.org
> >  NVIDIA Networking
> >  Oded Gabbay/Habana - https://lore.kernel.org/r/ZrMl1bkPP-3G9B4N@T14sgabbay.
> >  Oracle Linux - https://lore.kernel.org/r/6lakj6lxlxhdgrewodvj3xh6sxn3d36t5dab6najzyti2navx3@wrge7cyfk6nq
> >  SuSE/Hannes - https://lore.kernel.org/r/2fd48f87-2521-4c34-8589-dbb7e91bb1c8@suse.com
> > 
> > Work is ongoing for userspace, currently the mellanox tool suite has been
> > ported over:
> >   https://github.com/Mellanox/mstflint
> > 
> > And a more simplified example how to use it:
> >   https://github.com/jgunthorpe/mlx5ctl.git
> > 
> > This is on github: https://github.com/jgunthorpe/linux/commits/fwctl
> > 
> > v4:
> >  - Rebase to v6.14-rc1
> >  - Fine tune comments and rst documentatin
> >  - Adjust cleanup.h usage - remove places that add more ofuscation than
> >    value
> >  - CXL is back to its own independent series
> >  - Increase FWCTL_MAX_DEVICES to 4096, someone hit the limit
> >  - Fix mlx5ctl_validate_rpc() logic around scope checking
> >  - Disable mlx5ctl on SFs
> > v3: https://patch.msgid.link/r/0-v3-960f17f90f17+516-fwctl_jgg@nvidia.com
> >  - Rebase to v6.11-rc4
> >  - Add a squashed version of David's CXL series as the 2nd driver
> >  - Add missing includes
> >  - Improve comments based on feedback
> >  - Use the kdoc format that puts the member docs inside the struct
> >  - Rewrite fwctl_alloc_device() to be clearer
> >  - Incorporate all remarks for the documentation
> > v2: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0-v2-940e479ceba9+3821-fwctl_jgg@nvidia.com
> >  - Rebase to v6.10-rc5
> >  - Minor style changes
> >  - Follow the style consensus for the guard stuff
> >  - Documentation grammer/spelling
> >  - Add missed length output for mlx5 get_info
> >  - Add two more missed MLX5 CMD's
> >  - Collect tags
> > v1: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0-v1-9912f1a11620+2a-fwctl_jgg@nvidia.com
> > 
> > Andy Gospodarek (2):
> >   fwctl/bnxt: Support communicating with bnxt fw
> >   bnxt: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_bnxt
> > 
> > Jason Gunthorpe (6):
> >   fwctl: Add basic structure for a class subsystem with a cdev
> >   fwctl: Basic ioctl dispatch for the character device
> >   fwctl: FWCTL_INFO to return basic information about the device
> >   taint: Add TAINT_FWCTL
> >   fwctl: FWCTL_RPC to execute a Remote Procedure Call to device firmware
> >   fwctl: Add documentation
> > 
> > Saeed Mahameed (2):
> >   fwctl/mlx5: Support for communicating with mlx5 fw
> >   mlx5: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_mlx5
> > 
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.rst |   5 +
> >  Documentation/userspace-api/fwctl/fwctl.rst   | 285 ++++++++++++
> >  Documentation/userspace-api/fwctl/index.rst   |  12 +
> >  Documentation/userspace-api/index.rst         |   1 +
> >  .../userspace-api/ioctl/ioctl-number.rst      |   1 +
> >  MAINTAINERS                                   |  16 +
> >  drivers/Kconfig                               |   2 +
> >  drivers/Makefile                              |   1 +
> >  drivers/fwctl/Kconfig                         |  32 ++
> >  drivers/fwctl/Makefile                        |   6 +
> >  drivers/fwctl/bnxt/Makefile                   |   4 +
> >  drivers/fwctl/bnxt/bnxt.c                     | 167 +++++++
> >  drivers/fwctl/main.c                          | 416 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  drivers/fwctl/mlx5/Makefile                   |   4 +
> >  drivers/fwctl/mlx5/main.c                     | 340 ++++++++++++++
> >  drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.c     |   3 +
> >  drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt.h     |   3 +
> >  drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt_ulp.c | 126 +++++-
> >  drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/bnxt/bnxt_ulp.h |   4 +
> >  drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx5/core/dev.c |   9 +
> >  include/linux/fwctl.h                         | 135 ++++++
> >  include/linux/panic.h                         |   3 +-
> >  include/uapi/fwctl/bnxt.h                     |  27 ++
> >  include/uapi/fwctl/fwctl.h                    | 140 ++++++
> >  include/uapi/fwctl/mlx5.h                     |  36 ++
> >  kernel/panic.c                                |   1 +
> >  tools/debugging/kernel-chktaint               |   8 +
> >  27 files changed, 1782 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/fwctl/fwctl.rst
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/fwctl/index.rst
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/Kconfig
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/Makefile
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/bnxt/Makefile
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/bnxt/bnxt.c
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/main.c
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/mlx5/Makefile
> >  create mode 100644 drivers/fwctl/mlx5/main.c
> >  create mode 100644 include/linux/fwctl.h
> >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/fwctl/bnxt.h
> >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/fwctl/fwctl.h
> >  create mode 100644 include/uapi/fwctl/mlx5.h
> > 
> > 
> > base-commit: 2014c95afecee3e76ca4a56956a936e23283f05b  
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-11  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-07  0:13 [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce fwctl subystem Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] fwctl: Add basic structure for a class subsystem with a cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 23:32   ` Dan Williams
2025-02-07 23:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  0:08   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] fwctl: Basic ioctl dispatch for the character device Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 12:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 13:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  0:16   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-10 15:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 12:42   ` Przemek Kitszel
2025-02-13 18:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] fwctl: FWCTL_INFO to return basic information about the device Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 13:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 14:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  0:21   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] taint: Add TAINT_FWCTL Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 13:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-08  0:24   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] fwctl: FWCTL_RPC to execute a Remote Procedure Call to device firmware Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  0:28   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] fwctl: Add documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 14:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-10 15:17     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  0:40   ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] fwctl/mlx5: Support for communicating with mlx5 fw Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 13:19   ` Przemek Kitszel
2025-02-13 14:25     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-13 19:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mlx5: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_mlx5 Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] fwctl/bnxt: Support communicating with bnxt fw Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 14:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-02-07 15:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:13 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] bnxt: Create an auxiliary device for fwctl_bnxt Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07  0:44   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07  3:17     ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-07 12:46       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-07 15:36       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07 20:25         ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-07 21:51           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-08  1:10             ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-08  1:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-08  3:24               ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-11  1:04               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-11  7:55                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 14:27                   ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-12 14:20                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 18:36                   ` Nelson, Shannon
2025-02-12 13:22                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-14  1:03                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-17 12:49                         ` Jiri Pirko
2025-02-17 19:02                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-11 16:24                 ` David Ahern
2025-02-18 20:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-18 21:42                     ` David Ahern
2025-02-18 23:31                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-24 22:34                         ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-02-07 23:29         ` Andy Gospodarek
2025-02-08  0:08           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-07 21:41 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] Introduce fwctl subystem Dan Williams
2025-02-07 21:58 ` Dave Jiang
2025-02-11  9:33   ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2025-02-13 17:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-13 17:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 22:21 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-02-13  2:30 ` Nelson, Shannon
2025-02-13 18:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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