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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] rtnetlink: Allow setting IFLA_PERM_ADDRESS at device creation time
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:51:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250217095150.12cdec05@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfipom9q.fsf@toke.dk>

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 17:13:53 +0100 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:45:22 +0100 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:  
> >> Eric suggested[0] allowing user-settable values for dev->perm_addr at
> >> device creation time, instead of mucking about with netdevsim to get a
> >> virtual device with a permanent address set.  
> >
> > I vote no. Complicating the core so that its easier for someone 
> > to write a unit test is the wrong engineering trade off.
> > Use a VM or netdevsim, that's what they are for.  
> 
> Hmm, and you don't see any value in being able to specify a permanent
> identifier for virtual devices? That bit was not just motivated
> reasoning on my part... :)

I can't think of any :( Specifying an address is already possible.
Permanent address is a property of the hardware platform.
Virtual devices OTOH are primarily used by containers, 
which are ephemeral by design. At least that's my mental model.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-13 13:45 [PATCH net-next] rtnetlink: Allow setting IFLA_PERM_ADDRESS at device creation time Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-02-13 15:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-13 16:13   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-02-17 17:51     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-02-18 12:51       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-02-18 14:37         ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-18 20:14           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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