From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 608BF2E336C; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741135327; cv=none; b=JSgRJsKgHHIWYDPFNIZx0TVTB+rbVW1fQ45oeTrh3gEqu6JoCahCmsOF4Du4Gm2Y1w2uwYSNWAzvnn7TbmZfaOSz1s/Ey7gnNatFhNCP0jYloT1/nJsqKvSh9MuXAwGNs9Ix4H6jZgj7uJxXuZUYEJjjGnX3Lf86utXXyUxEHPE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741135327; c=relaxed/simple; bh=szov/TVctoQefLK38irRq6/qIMWI1TSwdt7wMHC9hQA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F59CopvtvxGrekMBdJufzV3pe6BUy+fFLt23IptsRikyvXNY2mvFqsHhQugXd9R6jLAMppwVYBRRibXSIqHWePVzAREh7we7zNZGVcgoRZnCOrduinNT85BoaaDEzuS37pQp9dd+yeaj4l/EeCKpHUgTFMFxNGzfNuEyd0vzT4Q= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=K+7/a0hq; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="K+7/a0hq" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5D91C4CEE5; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 00:42:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1741135325; bh=szov/TVctoQefLK38irRq6/qIMWI1TSwdt7wMHC9hQA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=K+7/a0hqQjbKQRBs3pXLSCXT/1B/IffJMwyZsTVSWDtCCQ6um+AY75bC6YZT1PPdC soVwhr3QvnUdwdISa0E9XWvfbREu6hGbJN+3fs4zFFvJhZ1nKcWnQf4NHsNDQgXdtt yQqe4Oey8j3pb49WKw3t/W6Q4rGC6C2PEkmZiMwIyg3zuSpvIv8QNj/tSjXDgpLgnc 5h7yFoe0BZ97S4aTjr50MWEwqsguEwjW3OdTdGsIWmEoPxF7p7VFQEpm8LgSvDEXvD 4I77E/BhNoYvwQSFLPnmGnIdIu2yzxxyjRn5LwTmpadhMLpSN8IFKy/L6EK8mPoW7F IDZye+vcOra6g== Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 16:42:03 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Jason Gunthorpe Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andy Gospodarek , Aron Silverton , Dan Williams , Daniel Vetter , Dave Jiang , David Ahern , Christoph Hellwig , Itay Avraham , Jiri Pirko , Jonathan Cameron , Leonid Bloch , Leon Romanovsky , linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed , "Nelson, Shannon" Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/8] Introduce fwctl subystem Message-ID: <20250304164203.38418211@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20250304140036.GK133783@nvidia.com> References: <0-v5-642aa0c94070+4447f-fwctl_jgg@nvidia.com> <20250303175358.4e9e0f78@kernel.org> <20250304140036.GK133783@nvidia.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:00:36 -0400 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > I never agreed to that formulation. I suggested that perhaps runtime > configurations where netdev is the only driver using the HW could be > disabled (ie a netdev exclusion, not a rdma inclusion). I thought you were arguing that me opposing the addition was "maintainer overreach". As in me telling other parts of the kernel what is and isn't allowed. Do I not get a say what gets merged under drivers/net/ now? > However, I would agree fwctl should not accept any fwctl drivers for > simple networking devices. However, "smart nics" and RDMA capable > devices are in-scope. Please stop with the fake technical arguments. I worked on SmartNICs for a decade.