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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jorgen Hansen <jhansen@vmware.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	Bobby Eshleman <bobbyeshleman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] vsock: add network namespace support
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 04:28:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250305042757-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGxU2F5C1kTN+z2XLwATvs9pGq0HAvXhKp6NUULos7O3uarjCA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:23:08AM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 08:32, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 06:24:26PM +0100, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > This patch adds a check of the "net" assigned to a socket during
> > > the vsock_find_bound_socket() and vsock_find_connected_socket()
> > > to support network namespace, allowing to share the same address
> > > (cid, port) across different network namespaces.
> > >
> > > This patch adds 'netns' module param to enable this new feature
> > > (disabled by default), because it changes vsock's behavior with
> > > network namespaces and could break existing applications.
> > > G2H transports will use the default network namepsace (init_net).
> > > H2G transports can use different network namespace for different
> > > VMs.
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the usecase. Can you explain a bit more,
> > please?
> 
> It's been five years, but I'm trying!
> We are tracking this RFE here [1].
> 
> I also add Jakub in the thread with who I discussed last year a possible 
> restart of this effort, he could add more use cases.
> 
> The problem with vsock, host-side, currently is that if you launch a VM 
> with a virtio-vsock device (using vhost) inside a container (e.g., 
> Kata), so inside a network namespace, it is reachable from any other 
> container, whereas they would like some isolation. Also the CID is 
> shared among all, while they would like to reuse the same CID in 
> different namespaces.
> 
> This has been partially solved with vhost-user-vsock, but it is 
> inconvenient to use sometimes because of the hybrid-vsock problem 
> (host-side vsock is remapped to AF_UNIX).
> 
> Something from the cover letter of the series [2]:
> 
>   As we partially discussed in the multi-transport proposal, it could
>   be nice to support network namespace in vsock to reach the following
>   goals:
>   - isolate host applications from guest applications using the same ports
>     with CID_ANY
>   - assign the same CID of VMs running in different network namespaces
>   - partition VMs between VMMs or at finer granularity
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefano
> 
> [1] https://gitlab.com/vsock/vsock/-/issues/2
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/virtualization/20200116172428.311437-1-sgarzare@redhat.com/


Ok so, host side. I get it. And the problem with your patches is that
they affect the guest side. Fix that, basically.

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16 17:24 [PATCH net-next 0/3] vsock: support network namespace Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-16 17:24 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] vsock: add network namespace support Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-20  9:06   ` David Miller
2020-01-20 10:17     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-20 12:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 13:58         ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-20 16:04           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 16:53             ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-20 22:02               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  9:07                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-21 11:14                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 13:13                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-21 15:43                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-21 13:59                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-21 14:31                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 15:44                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-03-05  7:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-03-05  9:23     ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-05  9:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-03-05  9:37         ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-05 15:54       ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-05 16:07         ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-05 20:19           ` Bobby Eshleman
2020-01-16 17:24 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] vsock/virtio_transport_common: handle netns of received packets Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-16 17:24 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] vhost/vsock: use netns of process that opens the vhost-vsock device Stefano Garzarella
2020-01-21 15:50 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] vsock: support network namespace Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-01-22  9:13   ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-04-27 14:25 ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-04-27 14:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-27 15:21     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-04-28  8:13   ` Jason Wang
2020-04-28 16:00     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-04-29  9:21       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-05  0:39       ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-05  5:46         ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10 20:14           ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-11  0:59             ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12 22:29               ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-05  7:27         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-03-05  9:30           ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-05 16:09             ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-06  0:16             ` Jason Wang
2025-03-06  1:36               ` Lei Yang
2025-03-06  8:23                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-10 14:14               ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-11  0:54                 ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11  1:01                   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-05  0:06 ` Bobby Eshleman
2025-03-05  9:42   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-03-05 17:14     ` Bobby Eshleman

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