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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Amerigo Wang <amwang@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] netpoll: guard __netpoll_send_skb() with RCU read lock
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 08:07:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250305080740.68749058@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305-tamarin-of-amusing-luck-b9c84f@leitao>

On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 01:09:49 -0800 Breno Leitao wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 05:47:32PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Mon, 03 Mar 2025 03:44:12 -0800 Breno Leitao wrote:  
> > > +	guard(rcu)();  
> > 
> > Scoped guards if you have to.
> > Preferably just lock/unlock like a normal person..  
> 
> Sure, I thought that we would be moving to scoped guards all across the
> board, at least that was my reading for a similar patch I sent a while
> ago:
> 
> 	https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250224123016.GA17456@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/
> 
> Anyway, in which case should I use scoped guard instead 

We are certainly not moving to guards in networking. Too C++-sy.
Just lock / unlock please, correctly around the variable you actually
intend to protect.

Quoting documentation:

  Using device-managed and cleanup.h constructs
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
  Netdev remains skeptical about promises of all "auto-cleanup" APIs,
  including even ``devm_`` helpers, historically. They are not the preferred
  style of implementation, merely an acceptable one.
  
  Use of ``guard()`` is discouraged within any function longer than 20 lines,
  ``scoped_guard()`` is considered more readable. Using normal lock/unlock is
  still (weakly) preferred.
  
  Low level cleanup constructs (such as ``__free()``) can be used when building
  APIs and helpers, especially scoped iterators. However, direct use of
  ``__free()`` within networking core and drivers is discouraged.
  Similar guidance applies to declaring variables mid-function.
  
See: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/next/process/maintainer-netdev.html#using-device-managed-and-cleanup-h-constructs

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-03 11:44 [PATCH net] netpoll: guard __netpoll_send_skb() with RCU read lock Breno Leitao
2025-03-05  1:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-03-05  9:09   ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-05 16:07     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-03-05 16:09     ` Andrew Lunn
2025-03-05 18:51       ` Breno Leitao

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