From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A63425524D; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741701567; cv=none; b=OsG6lTR7G3XYbG42YmTOgfeGCPj1fkdB8cAq36TXUbMATIyS9xqxJ3aLLLjCTMxQyiqwRTDs8nlp9tAgH3hQaa8sCWLvF4qJct5e85X/gQ4nXa6z86qVr2tNKp492mOqi95rXnfOShUWVt8eP/tY0o8QluMt6lHpEprx3vwn95o= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1741701567; c=relaxed/simple; bh=5MhmNTWMGNzvKLDkWq38qbEpyg7A+zhP0shutNQJMpw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=kCWfkBT+WN2sMh9vHLUiU0UxjWRXs65rHnkH9ZqOe+d2BuoVhSpf8a3BkvADupiAGp1jSNQyJU7UFEtoxi7qmtn720RLfhS7vpP75Ap8MX+GR0VflU3IYZSaT+6k9RrFXdd2kd1kyMMoxj1nVMU1eqdBSp/JvIYejz1+7j/F9/8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Odxrt06O; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Odxrt06O" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB3C7C4CEE9; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:59:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1741701566; bh=5MhmNTWMGNzvKLDkWq38qbEpyg7A+zhP0shutNQJMpw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Odxrt06OG/LR3t2QdbTKiPibxyn1ezxxomjuLdwrTqHuSIusglpwrTR4VzCiAB40O KupSFCyID5UpxIZlQEaG+A1yYJOkc4D8bP0Oa+XOu08g5zMM98NPJBGOnxGO9aO8Hq jnSvB3ADFy2PJoI52mWgM6gRedMD06KJxLrhOegPa91a6HNDmzKnVlgGknJl4KXTbf UqsTFSCpwf9aRcQWvAnabp2zgvJR0bmpbXu3fyy+fkjG8sdpIpC7AtZZgZlIN4rw0X tafJStLqtDR94UgUBo+6TrjHz4pawsFgdS+GLtetJge/Z/cP3UcQkx5J6rrL1bxoPx lDWZQleRTaiYA== Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:59:21 +0200 From: Leon Romanovsky To: David Ahern Cc: Jason Gunthorpe , Saeed Mahameed , Jiri Pirko , Jakub Kicinski , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andy Gospodarek , Aron Silverton , Dan Williams , Daniel Vetter , Dave Jiang , Christoph Hellwig , Itay Avraham , Jiri Pirko , Jonathan Cameron , Leonid Bloch , linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed , "Nelson, Shannon" Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/8] Introduce fwctl subystem Message-ID: <20250311135921.GF7027@unreal> References: <20250303175358.4e9e0f78@kernel.org> <20250304140036.GK133783@nvidia.com> <20250304164203.38418211@kernel.org> <20250305133254.GV133783@nvidia.com> <20250305182853.GO1955273@unreal> <20250305232154.GB354511@nvidia.com> <6af1429e-c36a-459c-9b35-6a9f55c3b2ac@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <6af1429e-c36a-459c-9b35-6a9f55c3b2ac@kernel.org> On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:23:19PM +0100, David Ahern wrote: > On 3/6/25 12:21 AM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 12:41:35PM -0800, Saeed Mahameed wrote: > >=20 > >> How do you imagine this driver/core structure should look like? Who > >> will be the top dir maintainer? > >=20 > > I would set something like this up more like DRM. Every driver > > maintainer gets commit rights, some rules about no uAPIs, or at least > > other acks before merging uAPI. Use the tree for staging shared > > branches. >=20 > why no uapi? Core driver can have knowledge of h/w resources across all > use cases. For example, our core driver supports a generid netlink based > dump (no set operations; get and dump only so maybe that should be the > restriction?) of all objects regardless of how created -- netdev, ib, > etc. -- and with much more detail. Because, we want to make sure that UAPI will be aligned with relevant subsystems without any way to bypass them. Thanks