From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Ricard Bejarano <ricard@bejarano.io>,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, michael.jamet@intel.com,
YehezkelShB@gmail.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Poor thunderbolt-net interface performance when bridged
Date: Mon, 26 May 2025 08:09:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250526080956.7f64a5f5@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2ca37ef-e5d0-4f3e-9299-0f1fc541fd03@lunn.ch>
On Mon, 26 May 2025 16:28:23 +0200
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > > Simple peer-to-peer, no routing nothing. Anything else is making things
> > > hard to debug. Also note that this whole thing is supposed to be used as
> > > peer-to-peer not some full fledged networking solution.
> >
> > > Let's forget bridges for now and anything else than this:
> > > Host A <- Thunderbolt Cable -> Host B
> >
> > Right, but that's precisely what I'm digging into: red->blue runs at line speed,
> > and so does blue->purple. From what I understand about drivers and networking,
> > it doesn't make sense then that the red->blue->purple path drops down so much in
> > performance (9Gbps to 5Mbps)
>
> Agreed.
>
> Do the interfaces provide statistics? ethtool -S. Where is the packet
> loss happening?
>
> Is your iperf testing with TCP or UDP? A small amount of packet loss
> will cause TCP to back off a lot. Also, if the reverse direction is
> getting messed up, ACKs are getting lost, TCP will also stall.
>
> Maybe try a UDP stream, say 500Mbs. What is the packet loss? Try the
> reverse direction, what is the packet loss. Then try --bidir, so you
> get both directions at the same time.
>
> Andrew
>
What is MTU? Bridging is L2 and if MTU does not match packets are
silently dropped.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-26 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-22 17:19 Poor thunderbolt-net interface performance when bridged Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-23 11:07 ` Mika Westerberg
2025-05-23 15:07 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 4:50 ` Mika Westerberg
2025-05-26 8:50 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 9:22 ` Mika Westerberg
2025-05-26 11:47 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 12:04 ` Mika Westerberg
2025-05-26 16:10 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-27 10:33 ` Mika Westerberg
2025-05-27 12:36 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 14:28 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-26 15:09 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2025-05-26 19:36 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 19:34 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-26 20:19 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-27 8:47 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-27 12:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-27 14:25 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-27 15:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-27 18:57 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-27 19:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-27 19:17 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-27 19:32 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-28 6:38 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-28 11:57 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-05-28 13:08 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-29 12:45 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-06-14 9:13 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-06-14 14:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-06-15 13:56 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-06-21 11:00 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-06-30 7:28 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-08-28 7:59 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-09-01 20:20 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-02 10:18 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-09-03 7:43 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-09-04 8:56 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-09-04 10:33 ` Ido Schimmel
2025-05-29 8:38 ` Ricard Bejarano
2025-05-29 10:06 ` Ricard Bejarano
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