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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	Moshe Shemesh <moshe@nvidia.com>, Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
	Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>, Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@nvidia.com>,
	Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V2 06/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Separate pool for headers
Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 08:29:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250527082956.12e57fe5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aC-ugDzGHB_WqKew@x130>

On Thu, 22 May 2025 16:08:48 -0700 Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> On 22 May 15:30, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> >On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:41:21 +0300 Tariq Toukan wrote:  
> >> Allocate a separate page pool for headers when SHAMPO is enabled.
> >> This will be useful for adding support to zc page pool, which has to be
> >> different from the headers page pool.  
> >
> >Could you explain why always allocate a separate pool?  
> 
> Better flow management, 0 conditional code on data path to alloc/return
> header buffers, since in mlx5 we already have separate paths to handle
> header, we don't have/need bnxt_separate_head_pool() and
> rxr->need_head_pool spread across the code.. 
> 
> Since we alloc and return pages in bulks, it makes more sense to manage
> headers and data in separate pools if we are going to do it anyway for 
> "undreadable_pools", and when there's no performance impact.

I think you need to look closer at the bnxt implementation.
There is no conditional on the buffer alloc path. If the head and
payload pools are identical we simply assign the same pointer to 
(using mlx5 naming) page_pool and hd_page_pool.

Your arguments are not very convincing, TBH.
The memory sitting in the recycling rings is very much not free.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-27 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-22 21:41 [PATCH net-next V2 00/11] net/mlx5e: Add support for devmem and io_uring TCP zero-copy Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 01/11] net: Kconfig NET_DEVMEM selects GENERIC_ALLOCATOR Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 23:07   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 02/11] net: Add skb_can_coalesce for netmem Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 23:09   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-25 13:03     ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-05-25 17:44       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28  9:13         ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 03/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Reorganize mlx5_rq_shampo_alloc Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 04/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Remove redundant params Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 05/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Improve hw gro capability checking Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 06/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Separate pool for headers Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 22:30   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-22 23:08     ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-22 23:24       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-22 23:43         ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-27 15:29       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-05-27 15:53         ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 07/11] net/mlx5e: SHAMPO: Headers page pool stats Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 22:31   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-22 22:58     ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-06-06 10:43       ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-06-08 10:09         ` Tariq Toukan
2025-06-09 15:20           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 08/11] net/mlx5e: Convert over to netmem Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 23:18   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-22 23:54     ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-23 17:58       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-23 19:22         ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 09/11] net/mlx5e: Add support for UNREADABLE netmem page pools Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 23:26   ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-22 23:56     ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 10/11] net/mlx5e: Implement queue mgmt ops and single channel swap Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 21:41 ` [PATCH net-next V2 11/11] net/mlx5e: Support ethtool tcp-data-split settings Tariq Toukan
2025-05-22 22:55   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-22 23:19     ` Saeed Mahameed
2025-05-23 16:17       ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-05-23 19:35         ` saeed
2025-05-27 16:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-28  5:10         ` Gal Pressman
2025-05-29  0:12           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-27 16:05 ` [PATCH net-next V2 00/11] net/mlx5e: Add support for devmem and io_uring TCP zero-copy Stanislav Fomichev
2025-05-28  9:17   ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-05-28 15:45     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-05-28 22:59       ` Mina Almasry
2025-05-28 23:04         ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-05-29 11:11           ` Dragos Tatulea
2025-06-06  9:00             ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-05-28  0:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-05-28  1:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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