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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ignacio Encinas Rubio <ignacio@iencinas.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jan Stancek <jstancek@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Ruben Wauters <rubenru09@aol.com>,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lkmm@lists.linux.dev,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] docs: netlink: store generated .rst files at Documentation/output
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 22:59:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250610225911.09677024@foz.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEhSu56ePZ/QPHUW@gmail.com>

Hi Breno,

Em Tue, 10 Jun 2025 08:43:55 -0700
Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org> escreveu:

> Hello Mauro,
> 
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 12:46:07PM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > A better long term solution is to have an extension at
> > Documentation/sphinx that parses *.yaml files for netlink files,
> > which could internally be calling ynl_gen_rst.py. Yet, some care
> > needs to be taken, as yaml extensions are also used inside device
> > tree.  
> 
> In fact, This is very similar to what I did initially in v1. And I was
> creating a sphinx extension to handle the generation, have a look here:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231103135622.250314-1-leitao@debian.org/

Heh, I liked that ;-) 

Still, I would try to make the template there just a single line, e.g.
instead of:

	--- /dev/null
	+++ b/Documentation/networking/netlink_spec/devlink.rst
	@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
	+.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
	+
	+========================================
	+Family ``devlink`` netlink specification
	+========================================
	+
	+.. contents::
	+
	+.. netlink-spec:: devlink.yaml

I would just add:

	.. netlink-spec:: devlink.yaml

-

With regards to the code itself, IMHO the best would be to place
the yaml conversion code inside a python library (just like we did
with scripts/lib/kdoc) and keep having a command line program to
call it, as it is easier to test/debug parser issues via command line.

> During the review, we agree to move out of the sphinx extension.
> the reasons are the stubs/templates that needs to be created and you are
> creating here.
> 
> So, if we decide to come back to sphinx extension, we can leverage that
> code from v1 ?!

For me, that's fine. Still, I wonder if are there a way to avoid
creating a template for every yaml, while still using a Sphinx extension.

As there is an 1:1 mapping between .yaml files and output files, perhaps
there's a way to teach Sphinx to do the right thing, creating one html
per file. If so, ideally, the best would be to have an index.rst file similar
to this:

	.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0

	======================
	Netlink Specifications
	======================

	.. netlink-specs:: netlink/specs

which would teach the Sphinx extension to look for *.yaml files 
inside Documentation/netlink/specs, parsing them, creating one html
per file and create a TOC here. As there are some Sphinx extensions
that handle non-ReST formats, maybe this or something similar to
it could be possible.

> 
> > -def generate_main_index_rst(output: str) -> None:
> > +def generate_main_index_rst(output: str, index_dir: str, ) -> None:  
> 
> You probably don't need the last , before ).

Sure. 

> 
> Other than that, LGTM.
> 
> The question is, are we OK with the templates that need to be created
> for netlink specs?! 

If there's no other way, one might have a tool for maintainers to use
to update templates, but yeah, having one template per each yaml
is not ideal. I think we need to investigate it better and seek for
some alternatives to avoid it.

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-10 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 10:46 [PATCH 0/4] Don't generate netlink .rst files inside $(srctree) Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/4] tools: ynl_gen_rst.py: create a top-level reference Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/4] docs: netlink: netlink-raw.rst: use :ref: instead of :doc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/4] docs: netlink: don't ignore generated rst files Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-11 10:44   ` Donald Hunter
2025-06-10 10:46 ` [PATCH 4/4] docs: netlink: store generated .rst files at Documentation/output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-10 15:43   ` Breno Leitao
2025-06-10 20:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-06-10 21:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-06-12 14:39         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-11 15:45     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-11 15:55       ` Breno Leitao
2025-06-12 10:22         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-06-11 11:36   ` Donald Hunter
2025-06-11 16:10     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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