From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2EE619CD17; Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1752262485; cv=none; b=I6e6v3m6aBfI/YUiiuL8cbNnsxjR0zSm2oOfnhn90JzllwBRuFNgHhVxSIidc8SJaLCHO3UR4kqlaPp+larep2B6i2B2iVeGRIIyLPeoI5INaSmNJ1yvpgJ8QRWPoRkj94w+8cPZa3tL4DoL7DG27n/vCpckYTs+O96laUXseQY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1752262485; c=relaxed/simple; bh=v6iG3EMkiGieJSsdeDjHrneCcUNBwgtcJC/HKqppA5Q=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fZG9p9aBL1radF6HK2hEkKjKb22cP8rIasD8JMNxW4A6uuiWmOYAnE5McLmo74C76qHWbr8b5Wmz/owaisjJytySVQ30s1SvNje73Jw2xoCea05v+KyGpiqYMUnwdBDgeQ5VS5rigkyJwmXId7bev+LwQ8xrojV4vVJr9dfaMrg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=VWCcRa0z; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="VWCcRa0z" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3BE1C4CEF0; Fri, 11 Jul 2025 19:34:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1752262485; bh=v6iG3EMkiGieJSsdeDjHrneCcUNBwgtcJC/HKqppA5Q=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=VWCcRa0znuPZ7lhEAISJu8y+kGUzvx/Kx3f0P38Q2v7dStY35WQUftUFj7xw1AQvN mJVpg4Wy3ESF3rSxYHqz9Qujw21I75rB7zVmlKIqoeG24iiX5QM1iSkZKpC31H1HUu wUPuCcYtnyDmJ6aZzqShgjZcZiYptmGPwqGPa8Iwn2xS5cTsZ3JB7l9cJMDWGaQMgi SxmLttUaQaXsjj4SUW/80Jb3xi7go14c9c0OjuYLuXMB2TaBaLvb0A+Y0n1VLNBALN 0CTDkptIvRFs8Me5uJhZJautl0GmIsUn/DzPmisl3HWFvNoBujRqpfnfRvX+8QU48x ppXE0CNYfbUBg== Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:34:44 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Thomas Zimmermann , Simona Vetter , Dave Airlie , davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, dri-devel Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Networking for v6.16-rc6 (follow up) Message-ID: <20250711123444.71747051@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20250711151002.3228710-1-kuba@kernel.org> <20250711114642.2664f28a@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 12:30:28 -0700 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > I spent several hours yesterday chasing all the wrong things (because > > I thought it was in drm), and often thought "Oh, that fixed it". Only > > to then realize that nope, the problem still happens. > > > > I will test the reverts. Several times. > > Well, the first boot with those three commits reverted shows no problem at all. > > But as mentioned, I've now had "Oh, that fixed it" about ten times. > > So that "Oh, it worked this time" has been tainted by past experience. > Will do several more boots now in the hope that it's gone for good. Fingers crossed. FWIW /proc/net/netlink should show the socket drop counters. But my laptop running 6.15 has a number of GNOME apps which never read their sockets so it's not going to be as immediately obvious whether we regressed or its a bad app as I hoped.