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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
	"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Carolina Jubran <cjubran@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/3] Support exposing raw cycle counters in PTP and mlx5
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:09:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250721170916.490ce57e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1752556533-39218-1-git-send-email-tariqt@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 15 Jul 2025 08:15:30 +0300 Tariq Toukan wrote:
> This patch series introduces support for exposing the raw free-running
> cycle counter of PTP hardware clocks. 

Could you say more about use cases? I realized when massaging the cover
letter to apply the series that all the use cases are vague and
hypothetical.

> Some telemetry and low-level logging use cycle counter timestamps
> rather than nanoseconds.

What is that "some telemetry"?

> Currently, there is no generic interface to
> correlate these raw values with system time.
> 
> To address this, the series introduces two new ioctl commands that
> allow userspace to query the device's raw cycle counter together with
> host time:
> 
>  - PTP_SYS_OFFSET_PRECISE_CYCLES
> 
>  - PTP_SYS_OFFSET_EXTENDED_CYCLES
> 
> These commands work like their existing counterparts but return the
> device timestamp in cycle units instead of real-time nanoseconds.
> 
> This can also be useful in the XDP fast path: if a driver inserts the
> raw cycle value into metadata instead of a real-time timestamp, it can
> avoid the overhead of converting cycles to time in the kernel. Then
> userspace can resolve the cycle-to-time mapping using this ioctl when
> needed.

There is no API to achieve that today, right? The XDP access helpers
are supposed to return converted time. Are you planning to add new
callbacks?

If there are solid networking use cases for this I'd prefer we fully
iron them out before merging this uAPI. If there are RDMA use cases
please spell them out in more detail.
-- 
pw-bot: cr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-22  0:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-15  5:15 [PATCH net-next 0/3] Support exposing raw cycle counters in PTP and mlx5 Tariq Toukan
2025-07-15  5:15 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] ptp: Add ioctl commands to expose raw cycle counter values Tariq Toukan
2025-07-15  5:15 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] net/mlx5: Extract MTCTR register read logic into helper function Tariq Toukan
2025-07-15  5:15 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net/mlx5: Support getcyclesx and getcrosscycles Tariq Toukan
2025-07-17 10:55   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-07-17 15:56     ` Carolina Jubran
2025-07-18  9:09       ` Paolo Abeni
2025-07-18 23:29 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] Support exposing raw cycle counters in PTP and mlx5 Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-21 17:14   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-07-29 23:33   ` Jacob Keller
2025-07-31 19:05     ` Carolina Jubran
2025-07-22  0:09 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-07-29  6:57   ` Carolina Jubran
2025-07-29 22:40     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-31 19:03       ` Carolina Jubran
2025-08-01 20:23         ` Jakub Kicinski

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