From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31E483376B8 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2025 16:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755532811; cv=none; b=G3175wB9g4vNVi3IGkAOnWO6jNn2HkBuhjAgmzXm7feehlH74papRJyOeknAL3zLdrprCdEPkUeXg2BcOkPGnNb95nf6lKp9LGaiKgVmlgk2C3ntCV53fZ8UL7BV56HzZlbrRHBW2FsiZD4vdg+znye/JDVqOOly4Zjr7T9/Kvc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755532811; c=relaxed/simple; bh=FSlCD5RaSvZxFuFw4a32tctP7mGD+tB6sYhMCTGAHFE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hVo19uMS4nrissVLbaMDxZDdmqBMJ7uYFwsu5BuUDUMn4RM/IjPt76UH8eyjGzomfp437oS2YZTMmNDNDlSJRjkZUtjerA/y5Wan/1GapnGmlybgiNoSw3yIlfqrb/tTuFAUvazJf2CdR43PTW5IgpDqkkfn0j+gHPB6L00C4HY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=M/ms83fx; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="M/ms83fx" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0469C4CEEB; Mon, 18 Aug 2025 16:00:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1755532811; bh=FSlCD5RaSvZxFuFw4a32tctP7mGD+tB6sYhMCTGAHFE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=M/ms83fxLiVXGve5P2xWEfjAvzD4MxGOvtFgt3E3lF7WDN6Sh0psKyWJ/IUpbixph W8MOwLj8D36fGll1IP+06EvlKeXnXE8oO/BaR8Yfyg3YekId39kdFtksVoCE8nU5mG Lc94BLeJi5gLM1jgUGi5cp/CouMX6TsW+pixr7lvAvQEkGSSqlJ3CwKPRgo8LZfXh/ +JAkvN/ByO2duLGpiBdVj81Ih3HoQx7XXSQR1LXSPtg8pL7KoR81PZF5+wWLc46Xa9 SoC+O3MhbjPGewXFFsI4hiyih+q9WmRt3PgYLikZP4UHtYe+EFqi8TXxgGMRsIlnAP 7FVBdkcCLOdwA== Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:00:10 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: David Ahern Cc: Stephen Hemminger , Erni Sri Satya Vennela , netdev@vger.kernel.org, haiyangz@microsoft.com, shradhagupta@linux.microsoft.com, ssengar@microsoft.com, dipayanroy@microsoft.com, ernis@microsoft.com Subject: Re: [PATCH iproute2-next v3] iproute2: Add 'netshaper' command to 'ip link' for netdev shaping Message-ID: <20250818090010.1201f52a@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <31e038a1-5a17-4c13-bf37-d07cbccd7056@gmail.com> References: <1754895902-8790-1-git-send-email-ernis@linux.microsoft.com> <20250816155510.03a99223@hermes.local> <20250818083612.68a3c137@kernel.org> <31e038a1-5a17-4c13-bf37-d07cbccd7056@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:41:29 -0600 David Ahern wrote: > On 8/18/25 9:36 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > Somewhat related -- what's your take on integrating / vendoring in YNL? > > I feel like this has been brought up a few times. > > Is there a specific proposal or any patches to review? Not AFAIK. Erni is being asked to rethink his approach here, and if we're going with a new command perhaps YNL should be on the table. I'd be very interested to get a final ruling on YNL integration into iproute2 -- given its inability to work as a shared object / library it's not unreasonable for the answer to be "no". The page pool sample in the kernel sources is very useful, I find myself copying to various systems during debug. If there's no clear path to YNL integration with iproute2 it's time for that sample to be come a real CLI tool.