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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	"D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Sidraya Jayagond <sidraya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mahanta Jambigi <mjambigi@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tony Lu <tonylu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Wen Gu <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] net/smc: make wr buffer count configurable
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:01:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250905140135.2487a99f.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250905110059.450da664.pasic@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:00:59 +0200
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> > 1. What if the two sides have different max_send_wr/max_recv_wr configurations?
> > IIUC, For example, if the client sets max_send_wr to 64, but the server sets
> > max_recv_wr to 16, the client might overflow the server's QP receive
> > queue, potentially causing an RNR (Receiver Not Ready) error.  
> 
> I don't think the 16 is spec-ed anywhere and if the client and the server
> need to agree on the same value it should either be speced, or a
> protocol mechanism for negotiating it needs to exist. So what is your
> take on this as an SMC maintainer?
> 
> I think, we have tested heterogeneous setups and didn't see any grave
> issues. But let me please do a follow up on this. Maybe the other
> maintainers can chime in as well.

Did some research and some thinking. Are you concerned about a
performance regression for e.g. 64 -> 16 compared to 16 -> 16? According
to my current understanding the RNR must not lead to a catastrophic
failure, but the RDMA/IB stack is supposed to handle that.

I would like to also point out that bumping SMC_WR_BUF_CNT basically has
the same problem, although admittedly to a smaller extent because it is
only between "old" and "new".

Assuming that my understanding is correct, I believe that the problem of
the potential RNR is inherent to the objective of the series, and
probably one that can be lived with. Given this entire EID business, I
think the SMC-R setup is likely to happen in a coordinated fashion for
all potential peers, and I hope whoever tweaks those values has a
sufficent understanding or empiric evidence to justify the tweaks.

Assuming my understanding is not utterly wrong, I would very much like
to know what would you want me to do with this?

Thank you in advance!

Regards,
Hali

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-04 21:12 [PATCH net-next 0/2] net/smc: make wr buffer count configurable Halil Pasic
2025-09-04 21:12 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] " Halil Pasic
2025-09-05  3:45   ` Dust Li
2025-09-05  9:00     ` Halil Pasic
2025-09-05 12:01       ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2025-09-05 14:12         ` Mahanta Jambigi
2025-09-05 14:22         ` Dust Li
2025-09-05 14:51           ` Dust Li
2025-09-05 21:05             ` Halil Pasic
2025-09-06 18:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-04 21:12 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net/smc: handle -ENOMEM from smc_wr_alloc_link_mem gracefully Halil Pasic

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