From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <stfomichev@gmail.com>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
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bpf@vger.kernel.org, Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@nvidia.com>,
Dragos Tatulea <dtatulea@nvidia.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 10/10] net/mlx5e: Use the 'num_doorbells' devlink param
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 13:23:10 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250910162310.GF882933@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMGkaDoZpmOWUA_L@mini-arch>
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 09:16:40AM -0700, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > + * - ``num_doorbells``
> > + - driverinit
> > + - This controls the number of channel doorbells used by the netdev. In all
> > + cases, an additional doorbell is allocated and used for non-channel
> > + communication (e.g. for PTP, HWS, etc.). Supported values are:
> > + - 0: No channel-specific doorbells, use the global one for everything.
> > + - [1, max_num_channels]: Spread netdev channels equally across these
> > + doorbells.
>
> Do you have any guidance on this number? Why would the user want
> `num_doorbells < num_doorbells` vs `num_doorbells == num_channels`?
I expect it to be common that most deployment should continue to use
the historical value of num_doorbells = 0.
Certain systems with troubled CPUs will need to increase this, I don't
know if we yet fully understand what values these CPUs will need.
Nor do I think I'm permitted to say what CPUs are troubled :\
> IOW, why not allocate the same number of doorbells as the number of
> channels and do it unconditionally without devlink param? Are extra
> doorbells causing any overhead in the non-contended case?
It has a cost that should be minimized to not harm the current
majority of users.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-10 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 10:24 [PATCH net-next 00/10] net/mlx5e: Use multiple doorbells Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 01/10] net/mlx5: Fix typo of MLX5_EQ_DOORBEL_OFFSET Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 02/10] net/mlx5: Remove unused 'offset' field from mlx5_sq_bfreg Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 03/10] net/mlx5e: Remove unused 'xsk' param of mlx5e_build_xdpsq_param Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 04/10] net/mlx5: Store the global doorbell in mlx5_priv Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 05/10] net/mlx5e: Prepare for using multiple TX doorbells Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 06/10] net/mlx5e: Prepare for using different CQ doorbells Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 07/10] net/mlx5e: Use multiple TX doorbells Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 08/10] net/mlx5e: Use multiple CQ doorbells Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 09/10] devlink: Add a 'num_doorbells' driverinit param Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 10:24 ` [PATCH net-next 10/10] net/mlx5e: Use the 'num_doorbells' devlink param Tariq Toukan
2025-09-10 16:16 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-09-10 16:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-16 8:32 ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-09-10 17:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
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