From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068FC13AA2F; Fri, 12 Sep 2025 02:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1757643529; cv=none; b=ArpD0l7mQz8htmdviR2rfiMk1NH/ioHAFmExfIoq5b5GXPG1iqW2yBXVr4WR/XQ8Hx0z+jPm92BaUa9hmqmrWCD7CTEDXJdoU42BOgbXxKilpf9VpzcYrKdwikFrJqmu+WaejYgo0Eb97xtV+4zGvFOFTj6b+9mt3lGHAwDTJMI= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1757643529; c=relaxed/simple; bh=tb0RjiLR6dlhzgJ2yxZd7kUCUULJpTEX6t1+ERYfcZE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DjOagLRTEGxIzVD9DIzM41zQy8IhsNFe1yoYDhmcE1fn1tqLSBc00TtdSHM2kh5LEjWjJO2tdOhdpvoQOum+QFrDFkNC7ItNIAnN+rxgDKjCPt5/GH1Ex6MW6uqSnT+bdXjmvdiHHiRZlYw8xTowX3BPbQQbxjg3Vf8VZW0qHmI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=RBAblwgr; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="RBAblwgr" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A0925C4CEF0; Fri, 12 Sep 2025 02:18:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1757643528; bh=tb0RjiLR6dlhzgJ2yxZd7kUCUULJpTEX6t1+ERYfcZE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=RBAblwgrKsvAkqQgSLkoWJW23Ot1J8i2Na5+2dUb8/piRiCvokjPDtVt2+DYqdO9s GGfMqxrAqsJAB/jBoeic3i93qKfDGq/gcR9dUbcj7jqvNAPmU8AwLqFrNH5wuG8hnH f70BC8l1EXgC0sFaBpCLLTjxvmSPHbppiOMUClcCKt4H+2yzK4o1sOGLcbs+kONWnF X6WYHut038Jd9RUiVt0P1dYxMe47+feVXIJWAnJ0zgV+FLibG9gzi+373ykr258Fja Jrn8KcPTA1ekm8t4j0OdGvQ9l6e1in+8YM9IbiIalG0lbIO4PyhFB77FbfxyDWkXis orW58qpaTeTdQ== Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 19:18:46 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Oleksij Rempel Cc: Andrew Lunn , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , Simon Horman , Donald Hunter , Jonathan Corbet , Heiner Kallweit , Russell King , Kory Maincent , Maxime Chevallier , Nishanth Menon , kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Michal Kubecek , Roan van Dijk Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 0/5] ethtool: introduce PHY MSE diagnostics UAPI and drivers Message-ID: <20250911191846.273bc7db@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <20250908124610.2937939-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de> References: <20250908124610.2937939-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 14:46:05 +0200 Oleksij Rempel wrote: > In practice, such scenarios can only be investigated in > fixed-link mode; here, MSE can provide an empirically estimated value > indicating conditions under which autonegotiation would not succeed. Does fixed-link make sense here? I thought fixed-link meant MAC-to-MAC in most contexts