netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"eperezma@redhat.com" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"jonah.palmer@oracle.com" <jonah.palmer@oracle.com>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux.dev" <virtualization@lists.linux.dev>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/2] vhost-net: correctly flush batched packet before enabling notification
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 11:30:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250912112726-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63426904-881F-4725-96F5-3343389ED170@nutanix.com>

On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 03:24:42PM +0000, Jon Kohler wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Sep 12, 2025, at 4:50 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > !-------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >  CAUTION: External Email
> > 
> > |-------------------------------------------------------------------!
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 04:26:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> >> Commit 8c2e6b26ffe2 ("vhost/net: Defer TX queue re-enable until after
> >> sendmsg") tries to defer the notification enabling by moving the logic
> >> out of the loop after the vhost_tx_batch() when nothing new is
> >> spotted. This will bring side effects as the new logic would be reused
> >> for several other error conditions.
> >> 
> >> One example is the IOTLB: when there's an IOTLB miss, get_tx_bufs()
> >> might return -EAGAIN and exit the loop and see there's still available
> >> buffers, so it will queue the tx work again until userspace feed the
> >> IOTLB entry correctly. This will slowdown the tx processing and may
> >> trigger the TX watchdog in the guest.
> > 
> > It's not that it might.
> > Pls clarify that it *has been reported* to do exactly that,
> > and add a link to the report.
> > 
> > 
> >> Fixing this by stick the notificaiton enabling logic inside the loop
> >> when nothing new is spotted and flush the batched before.
> >> 
> >> Reported-by: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>
> >> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> >> Fixes: 8c2e6b26ffe2 ("vhost/net: Defer TX queue re-enable until after sendmsg")
> >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > 
> > So this is mostly a revert, but with
> >                     vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> > added in to avoid regressing performance.
> > 
> > If you do not want to structure it like this (revert+optimization),
> > then pls make that clear in the message.
> > 
> > 
> >> ---
> >> drivers/vhost/net.c | 33 +++++++++++++--------------------
> >> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> >> 
> >> diff --git a/drivers/vhost/net.c b/drivers/vhost/net.c
> >> index 16e39f3ab956..3611b7537932 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/vhost/net.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/vhost/net.c
> >> @@ -765,11 +765,11 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> >> int err;
> >> int sent_pkts = 0;
> >> bool sock_can_batch = (sock->sk->sk_sndbuf == INT_MAX);
> >> - bool busyloop_intr;
> >> bool in_order = vhost_has_feature(vq, VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER);
> >> 
> >> do {
> >> - busyloop_intr = false;
> >> + bool busyloop_intr = false;
> >> +
> >> if (nvq->done_idx == VHOST_NET_BATCH)
> >> vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> >> 
> >> @@ -780,10 +780,18 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> >> break;
> >> /* Nothing new?  Wait for eventfd to tell us they refilled. */
> >> if (head == vq->num) {
> >> - /* Kicks are disabled at this point, break loop and
> >> - * process any remaining batched packets. Queue will
> >> - * be re-enabled afterwards.
> >> + /* Flush batched packets before enabling
> >> + * virqtueue notification to reduce
> >> + * unnecssary virtqueue kicks.
> > 
> > typos: virtqueue, unnecessary
> > 
> >> */
> >> + vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> >> + if (unlikely(busyloop_intr)) {
> >> + vhost_poll_queue(&vq->poll);
> >> + } else if (unlikely(vhost_enable_notify(&net->dev,
> >> + vq))) {
> >> + vhost_disable_notify(&net->dev, vq);
> >> + continue;
> >> + }
> >> break;
> >> }
> 
> See my comment below, but how about something like this?
>  		if (head == vq->num) {
> 			/* Flush batched packets before enabling
> 			 * virtqueue notification to reduce
> 			 * unnecessary virtqueue kicks.
> 			 */
> 			vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> 			if (unlikely(busyloop_intr))
> 				/* If interrupted while doing busy polling,
> 				 * requeue the handler to be fair handle_rx
> 				 * as well as other tasks waiting on cpu.
> 				 */
> 				vhost_poll_queue(&vq->poll);
> 			else
> 				/* All of our work has been completed;
> 				 * however, before leaving the TX handler,
> 				 * do one last check for work, and requeue
> 				 * handler if necessary. If there is no work,
> 				 * queue will be reenabled.
> 				 */
> 				vhost_net_busy_poll_try_queue(net, vq);


I mean it's functionally equivalent, but vhost_net_busy_poll_try_queue 
checks the avail ring again and we just checked it.
Why is this a good idea?
This happens on good path so I dislike unnecessary work like this.


>  			break;
>  		}
> 
> 
> >> 
> >> @@ -839,22 +847,7 @@ static void handle_tx_copy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> >> ++nvq->done_idx;
> >> } while (likely(!vhost_exceeds_weight(vq, ++sent_pkts, total_len)));
> >> 
> >> - /* Kicks are still disabled, dispatch any remaining batched msgs. */
> >> vhost_tx_batch(net, nvq, sock, &msg);
> >> -
> >> - if (unlikely(busyloop_intr))
> >> - /* If interrupted while doing busy polling, requeue the
> >> - * handler to be fair handle_rx as well as other tasks
> >> - * waiting on cpu.
> >> - */
> >> - vhost_poll_queue(&vq->poll);
> >> - else
> >> - /* All of our work has been completed; however, before
> >> - * leaving the TX handler, do one last check for work,
> >> - * and requeue handler if necessary. If there is no work,
> >> - * queue will be reenabled.
> >> - */
> >> - vhost_net_busy_poll_try_queue(net, vq);
> 
> Note: the use of vhost_net_busy_poll_try_queue was intentional in my
> patch as it was checking to see both conditionals.
> 
> Can we simply hoist my logic up instead?
> 
> >> }
> >> 
> >> static void handle_tx_zerocopy(struct vhost_net *net, struct socket *sock)
> >> -- 
> >> 2.34.1
> > 
> 
> Tested-by: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com <mailto:jon@nutanix.com>>
> 
> Tried this out on a 6.16 host / guest that locked up with iotlb miss loop,
> applied this patch and all was well. 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-12  8:26 [PATCH net 1/2] vhost-net: unbreak busy polling Jason Wang
2025-09-12  8:26 ` [PATCH net 2/2] vhost-net: correctly flush batched packet before enabling notification Jason Wang
2025-09-12  8:50   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12 15:24     ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-12 15:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-09-12 15:33         ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-12 15:38           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12 15:40             ` Jon Kohler
2025-09-15 16:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16  2:37     ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16  5:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16  6:24         ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16  7:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-16  7:20             ` Jason Wang
2025-09-16  9:39               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12  8:51 ` [PATCH net 1/2] vhost-net: unbreak busy polling Michael S. Tsirkin

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20250912112726-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org \
    --to=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=eperezma@redhat.com \
    --cc=jasowang@redhat.com \
    --cc=jon@nutanix.com \
    --cc=jonah.palmer@oracle.com \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=stable@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=virtualization@lists.linux.dev \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).