From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11F07292B2E; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 22:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1758062374; cv=none; b=Xpq6N+mSTkFkuwWYL0RwGrpc14fP32KST5eOGzci0/yleiKGBkVc0zkQM+gavExJbPZF9xzTWj3am6gBFzmNMnznyT45ZyMe9i2ubx5jG+2cIBPg47iOjGW9ggUGQc8xs9g0C51CltjG3xGI9s/SPeTSQJxsaNb3Du3V8ju9TQg= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1758062374; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Ort8kF21YmqS/VszU+RQlm6xUoyQ77hb3hySCxPgjDk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pPxFDjRNb8WeKa1BJu+OXMLYQIrln0a8UCoDZ39D1KgG2NglCCPbPBPm5NumIIskmhHqtc1SKEdM75i1XXtVT+fXZJjJ64/Iri5Hnv8I+nzkbDFSdcRUAq5EEbNGxujF3E3qQH08rdagMAgls2Qec1T9mIRTplbyJFgJWiDB6qo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=s+cOa2Lr; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="s+cOa2Lr" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 163A6C4CEEB; Tue, 16 Sep 2025 22:39:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1758062373; bh=Ort8kF21YmqS/VszU+RQlm6xUoyQ77hb3hySCxPgjDk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=s+cOa2LrKFip85zl7kxfCjTEXmwSTQ87NTyhrwlFjZ1FGAr6a48/UdWwirn3ixWo+ QD4g5Vb6nkKT2n6zllDTiSUUb9zIDkUVND5IMyNREKoohCP8J6LFSG2QVMTv3l2kf1 uOEpqH80l4uIcUk3y94BVc0b09Awuk9H2a1dpdY/oCqUJ4TOB0wxi9QFeXk7NouzaC gzPfjevTfZzqnNp+6/9VWfssfLYTxHoeJjaitIhn57y5PW7aiMVoSL+qJChB3VYnJY xvzdxHu/G/UnRzIGt52uKd8wvfRkO6dQ1pG8ds56koRuAjapL7TTJLF/YtWH6TcQip 6VPbZ7JY8gnjA== Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 15:39:32 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" Cc: =?UTF-8?B?QXNiasO4cm4=?= Sloth =?UTF-8?B?VMO4bm5lc2Vu?= , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , Donald Hunter , Simon Horman , Jacob Keller , Sabrina Dubroca , wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 00/11] tools: ynl: prepare for wireguard Message-ID: <20250916153932.200647ad@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20250915144301.725949-1-ast@fiberby.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 17:53:00 +0200 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 4:47=E2=80=AFPM Asbj=C3=B8rn Sloth T=C3=B8nnesen = wrote: > > > > This series contains the last batch of YNL changes to support > > the wireguard YNL conversion. =20 >=20 > "the wireguard YNL conversion" FWIW these patches stand on their own whether we accept the wireguard patches or not. Put more plainly - please do not read me applying this set as an endorsement of the larger plan.. > Did I miss some conversation about this? I figure I must have. I must > say I'm not too keen on wireguard (and apparently only wireguard?) > being a guinea pig for this. The specs themselves are gaining maturity. I think adding a YNL spec for wireguard would be quite nice. Whether we should be converting the kernel code and uAPI to take advantage of the auto-generation is a completely separate conversation. If you're not anticipating many new additions in the uAPI there's little to be gained. Intro: https://docs.kernel.org/next/userspace-api/netlink/specs.html Existing specs: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/Do= cumentation/netlink/specs/ Libs: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/tree/to= ols/net/ynl/pyynl/lib/ynl.py https://github.com/linux-netdev/ynl-c (this one is also in tree) https://github.com/linux-netdev/ynl-cpp