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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Filip Hejsek <filip.hejsek@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alok.a.tiwari@oracle.com, ashwini@wisig.com, hi@alyssa.is,
	maxbr@linux.ibm.com, zhangjiao2@cmss.chinamobile.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] virtio,vhost: last minute fixes
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 12:12:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250918121009-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <869d0cd1576c2ea95a87d40e6ce49b97d62237c9.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:45:05PM +0200, Filip Hejsek wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-09-18 at 11:09 -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Most notably this reverts a virtio console
> > change since we made it without considering compatibility
> > sufficiently.
> 
> It seems that we are not in agreement about whether it should be
> reverted or not. I think it should depend on whether the virtio spec
> maintainers are willing to change it to agree with the Linux
> implementation. I was under the impression that they aren't.

Ugh. OK I guess I'll drop this one too then.
That leaves nothing relevant for this pull request.


> I will quote some conversation from the patch thread.
> 
> Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner wrote:
> > On a related note, during the initial discussion of this changing the
> > virtio spec was proposed as well (as can be read from the commit mgs),
> > however at the time on the viritio mailing list people were resistent
> > to the idea of changing the virtio spec to conform to the kernel
> > implementation.
> > I don't really care if this discrepancy is fixed one way or the other,
> > but it should most definitely be fixed.
> 
> I wrote:
> > I'm of the same opinion, but if it is fixed on the kernel side, then
> > (assuming no device implementation with the wrong order exists) I think
> > maybe the fix should be backported to all widely used kernels. It seems
> > that the patch hasn't been backported to the longterm kernels [1],
> > which I think Debian kernels are based on.
> > 
> > [1]: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/log/drivers/char/virtio_console.c?h=v6.12.47
> 
> Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner wrote:
> > Then I guess the patch-set should be backported
> 
> After that, I sent a backport request to stable@. Maybe I should have
> waited some more time before doing that.
> 
> Anyway, I don't care which way this dilemma will be resolved, but the
> discussion is currently scattered among too many places and it's hard
> to determine what the consensus is.
> 
> Best regards,
> Filip Hejsek


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-18 15:09 [GIT PULL v2] virtio,vhost: last minute fixes Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-18 15:45 ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18 16:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-09-18 16:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-18 16:20   ` Linus Torvalds

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