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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Adam Young <admiyo@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>
Cc: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Adam Young <admiyo@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mailbox/pcc: support mailbox management of the shared buffer"
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 12:57:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251001-masterful-benevolent-dolphin-a3fbea@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f48a2b3-50c4-4f67-a8f6-853ad545bb00@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 01:25:42AM -0400, Adam Young wrote:
> 
> On 9/29/25 20:19, Jassi Brar wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 12:11 PM Adam Young
> > <admiyo@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com> wrote:
> > > I posted a patch that addresses a few of these issues.  Here is a top
> > > level description of the isse
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The correct way to use the mailbox API would be to allocate a buffer for
> > > the message,write the message to that buffer, and pass it in to
> > > mbox_send_message.  The abstraction is designed to then provide
> > > sequential access to the shared resource in order to send the messages
> > > in order.  The existing PCC Mailbox implementation violated this
> > > abstraction.  It requires each individual driver re-implement all of the
> > > sequential ordering to access the shared buffer.
> > > 
> > > Why? Because they are all type 2 drivers, and the shared buffer is
> > > 64bits in length:  32bits for signature, 16 bits for command, 16 bits
> > > for status.  It would be execessive to kmalloc a buffer of this size.
> > > 
> > > This shows the shortcoming of the mailbox API.  The mailbox API assumes
> > > that there is a large enough buffer passed in to only provide a void *
> > > pointer to the message.  Since the value is small enough to fit into a
> > > single register, it the mailbox abstraction could provide an
> > > implementation that stored a union of a void * and word.
> > > 
> > Mailbox api does not make assumptions about the format of message
> > hence it simply asks for void*.
> > Probably I don't understand your requirement, but why can't you pass the pointer
> > to the 'word' you want to use otherwise?
> > 
> > -jassi
> The mbox_send_message call will then take the pointer value that you give it
> and put it in a ring buffer.  The function then returns, and the value may
> be popped off the stack before the message is actually sent.  In practice we
> don't see this because much of the code that calls it is blocking code, so
> the value stays on the stack until it is read.  Or, in the case of the PCC
> mailbox, the value is never read or used.  But, as the API is designed, the
> memory passed into to the function should expect to live longer than the
> function call, and should not be allocated on the stack.

I’m still not clear on what exactly you are looking for. Let’s look at
mbox_send_message(). It adds the provided data pointer to the queue, and then
passes the same pointer to tx_prepare() just before calling send_data(). This
is what I’ve been pointing out that you can obtain the buffer pointer there and
use it to update the shared memory in the client driver.

-- 
Regards,
Sudeep

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 15:33 [PATCH] Revert "mailbox/pcc: support mailbox management of the shared buffer" Sudeep Holla
2025-09-29 17:11 ` Adam Young
2025-09-30  0:19   ` Jassi Brar
2025-10-01  5:25     ` Adam Young
2025-10-01 11:57       ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2025-10-02 23:00         ` Adam Young
2025-10-01 20:32       ` Jassi Brar
2025-10-02 23:17         ` Adam Young
2025-10-05 21:29           ` Jassi Brar
2025-12-02 19:19             ` Adam Young
2025-12-03 10:31               ` Sudeep Holla
2025-09-30  9:37   ` Sudeep Holla
2025-09-30 22:12     ` Adam Young
2025-10-16 12:50 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-10-17 16:00   ` Adam Young
2025-10-17 17:44     ` Sudeep Holla

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