From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Adam Young <admiyo@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>
Cc: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Adam Young <admiyo@os.amperecomputing.com>,
<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mailbox/pcc: support mailbox management of the shared buffer"
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 12:57:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251001-masterful-benevolent-dolphin-a3fbea@sudeepholla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f48a2b3-50c4-4f67-a8f6-853ad545bb00@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com>
On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 01:25:42AM -0400, Adam Young wrote:
>
> On 9/29/25 20:19, Jassi Brar wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 12:11 PM Adam Young
> > <admiyo@amperemail.onmicrosoft.com> wrote:
> > > I posted a patch that addresses a few of these issues. Here is a top
> > > level description of the isse
> > >
> > >
> > > The correct way to use the mailbox API would be to allocate a buffer for
> > > the message,write the message to that buffer, and pass it in to
> > > mbox_send_message. The abstraction is designed to then provide
> > > sequential access to the shared resource in order to send the messages
> > > in order. The existing PCC Mailbox implementation violated this
> > > abstraction. It requires each individual driver re-implement all of the
> > > sequential ordering to access the shared buffer.
> > >
> > > Why? Because they are all type 2 drivers, and the shared buffer is
> > > 64bits in length: 32bits for signature, 16 bits for command, 16 bits
> > > for status. It would be execessive to kmalloc a buffer of this size.
> > >
> > > This shows the shortcoming of the mailbox API. The mailbox API assumes
> > > that there is a large enough buffer passed in to only provide a void *
> > > pointer to the message. Since the value is small enough to fit into a
> > > single register, it the mailbox abstraction could provide an
> > > implementation that stored a union of a void * and word.
> > >
> > Mailbox api does not make assumptions about the format of message
> > hence it simply asks for void*.
> > Probably I don't understand your requirement, but why can't you pass the pointer
> > to the 'word' you want to use otherwise?
> >
> > -jassi
> The mbox_send_message call will then take the pointer value that you give it
> and put it in a ring buffer. The function then returns, and the value may
> be popped off the stack before the message is actually sent. In practice we
> don't see this because much of the code that calls it is blocking code, so
> the value stays on the stack until it is read. Or, in the case of the PCC
> mailbox, the value is never read or used. But, as the API is designed, the
> memory passed into to the function should expect to live longer than the
> function call, and should not be allocated on the stack.
I’m still not clear on what exactly you are looking for. Let’s look at
mbox_send_message(). It adds the provided data pointer to the queue, and then
passes the same pointer to tx_prepare() just before calling send_data(). This
is what I’ve been pointing out that you can obtain the buffer pointer there and
use it to update the shared memory in the client driver.
--
Regards,
Sudeep
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-01 11:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-26 15:33 [PATCH] Revert "mailbox/pcc: support mailbox management of the shared buffer" Sudeep Holla
2025-09-29 17:11 ` Adam Young
2025-09-30 0:19 ` Jassi Brar
2025-10-01 5:25 ` Adam Young
2025-10-01 11:57 ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2025-10-02 23:00 ` Adam Young
2025-10-01 20:32 ` Jassi Brar
2025-10-02 23:17 ` Adam Young
2025-10-05 21:29 ` Jassi Brar
2025-12-02 19:19 ` Adam Young
2025-12-03 10:31 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-09-30 9:37 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-09-30 22:12 ` Adam Young
2025-10-16 12:50 ` Sudeep Holla
2025-10-17 16:00 ` Adam Young
2025-10-17 17:44 ` Sudeep Holla
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