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From: Kohei Enju <enjuk@amazon.com>
To: <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>, <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	<anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>, <corbet@lwn.net>,
	<davem@davemloft.net>, <edumazet@google.com>, <enjuk@amazon.com>,
	<horms@kernel.org>, <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	<jiri@resnulli.us>, <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<pabeni@redhat.com>, <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	<sx.rinitha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 13/14] ixgbe: preserve RSS indirection table across admin down/up
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 01:26:38 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251023162711.97625-2-enjuk@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251022172649.0faa0548@kernel.org>

On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 17:26:49 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 12:40:45 +0900 Kohei Enju wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 16:10:06 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> >On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 12:59:34 +0900 Kohei Enju wrote:  
>> >> For example, consider a scenario where the queue count is 8 with user
>> >> configuration containing values from 0 to 7. When queue count changes
>> >> from 8 to 4 and we skip the reinitialization in this scenario, entries
>> >> pointing to queues 4-7 become invalid. The same issue applies when the
>> >> RETA table size changes.  
>> >
>> >Core should reject this. See ethtool_check_max_channel()  
>> 
>> Indeed, you're right that the situation above will be rejected. I missed
>> it.
>> 
>> BTW, I think reinitializing the RETA table when queue count changes or
>> RETA table size changes is reasonable for predictability and safety.
>> Does this approach make sense to you?
>
>Yes, if !netif_is_rxfh_configured() re-initializing is expected.

I got it.

>
>> >> Furthermore, IIUC, adding netif_is_rxfh_configured() to the current
>> >> condition wouldn't provide additional benefit. When parameters remain
>> >> unchanged, regardless of netif_is_rxfh_configured(), we already preserve
>> >> the RETA entries which might be user-configured or default values,   
>> >
>> >User may decide to "isolate" (take out of RSS) a lower queue,
>> >to configure it for AF_XDP or other form of zero-copy. Install
>> >explicit rules to direct traffic to that queue. If you reset
>> >the RSS table random traffic will get stranded in the ZC queue
>> >(== dropped).
>> 
>> You're correct about the ZC queue scenario. The original implementation
>> (before this patch) would indeed cause this problem by unconditionally
>> reinitializing.
>> 
>> I believe this patch addresses that issue - it preserves the user
>> configuration since neither queue count nor RETA table size changes in
>> that case. If I'm misunderstanding your scenario, please let me know.
>> 
>> I could update the logic to explicitly check netif_is_rxfh_configured()
>> as in [1], though the actual behavior would be the same as [2] since
>> the default RETA table is a deterministic function of (rss_indices,
>> reta_entries):
>> 
>> [1] Check user configuration explicitly:
>>     if (!netif_is_rxfh_configured(adapter->netdev) ||
>>         adapter->last_rss_indices != rss_i ||
>>         adapter->last_reta_entries != reta_entries) {
>>         // reinitialize
>>     }
>> 
>> [2] Current patch:
>>     if (adapter->last_rss_indices != rss_i ||
>>         adapter->last_reta_entries != reta_entries) {
>>         // reinitialize
>>     }
>> 
>> Do you have any preference between these approaches, or would you
>> recommend a different solution?
>
>I was expecting something like:
>
>if (netif_is_rxfh_configured(adapter->netdev)) {
>	if (!check_that_rss_is_okay()) {
>		/* This should never happen, barring FW errors etc */
>		warn("user configuration lost due to XYZ");
>		reinit();
>	}
>} else if (...rss_ind != rss_id ||
>           ...reta_entries != reta_entries) {
>	reinit();
>}

Thank you for clarification. 

At first glance, noting that check_that_rss_is_okay() would return false
when the RETA table size is larger than the previous one, since
user-configuration doesn't exist for the expanded portion of the RETA
table. This should happen in realistic scenarios even though there are
no hardware-related or HW errors.

Anyway I'll refine the patch using netif_is_rxfh_configured() and then
submit to iwl-next first.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-23 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17  6:08 [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2025-10-15 (ice, iavf, ixgbe, i40e, e1000e) Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/14] devlink: Add new "max_mac_per_vf" generic device param Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/14] i40e: support generic devlink param "max_mac_per_vf" Jacob Keller
2025-10-21  1:25   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-21 20:39     ` Jacob Keller
2025-10-21 23:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-22  9:39         ` mohammad heib
2025-10-22 22:11         ` Jacob Keller
2025-10-24  8:07           ` mohammad heib
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/14] ice: add flow parsing for GTP and new protocol field support Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/14] ice: add virtchnl and VF context support for GTP RSS Jacob Keller
2025-10-21  1:22   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-22  9:58     ` Loktionov, Aleksandr
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/14] ice: improve TCAM priority handling for RSS profiles Jacob Keller
2025-10-21  1:16   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-21 20:41     ` Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/14] ice: Extend PTYPE bitmap coverage for GTP encapsulated flows Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/14] iavf: add RSS support for GTP protocol via ethtool Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/14] net: docs: add missing features that can have stats Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/14] ice: implement ethtool standard stats Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/14] ice: add tracking of good transmit timestamps Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/14] ice: implement transmit hardware timestamp statistics Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/14] ice: refactor to use helpers Jacob Keller
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/14] ixgbe: preserve RSS indirection table across admin down/up Jacob Keller
2025-10-21  1:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-21  3:59     ` Kohei Enju
2025-10-21 23:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-22  3:40         ` Kohei Enju
2025-10-23  0:26           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-23 16:26             ` Kohei Enju [this message]
2025-10-17  6:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/14] e1000e: Introduce private flag to disable K1 Jacob Keller
2025-10-21  1:33 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2025-10-15 (ice, iavf, ixgbe, i40e, e1000e) Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-21  1:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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