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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	razor@blackwall.org, pabeni@redhat.com, willemb@google.com,
	sdf@fomichev.me, john.fastabend@gmail.com, martin.lau@kernel.org,
	jordan@jrife.io, maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com,
	magnus.karlsson@intel.com, dw@davidwei.uk, toke@redhat.com,
	yangzhenze@bytedance.com, wangdongdong.6@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 03/15] net: Add peer info to queue-get response
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 16:18:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251024161832.2ff28238@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17f5b871-9bd9-4313-b123-67afa0f69272@iogearbox.net>

On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 14:59:39 +0200 Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 10/24/25 4:33 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 18:23:43 +0200 Daniel Borkmann wrote:  
> >> Add a nested peer field to the queue-get response that returns the peered
> >> ifindex and queue id.
> >>
> >> Example with ynl client:
> >>
> >>    # ip netns exec foo ./pyynl/cli.py \
> >>        --spec ~/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml \
> >>        --do queue-get \
> >>        --json '{"ifindex": 3, "id": 1, "type": "rx"}'
> >>    {'id': 1, 'ifindex': 3, 'peer': {'id': 15, 'ifindex': 4, 'netns-id': 21}, 'type': 'rx'}  
> > 
> > I'm struggling with the roles of what is src and dst and peer :(
> > No great suggestion off the top of my head but better terms would
> > make this much easier to review.
> > 
> > The example seems to be from the container side. Do we need to show peer
> > info on the container side? Not just on the host side?  
> 
> I think up to us which side we want to show. My thinking was to allow user
> introspection from both, but we don't have to. Right now the above example
> was from the container side, but technically it could be either side depending
> in which netns the phys dev would be located.
> 
> The user knows which is which based on the ifindex passed to the queue-get
> query: if the ifindex is from a virtual device (e.g. netkit type), then the
> 'peer' section shows the phys dev, and vice versa, if the ifindex is from a
> phys device (say, mlx5), then the 'peer' section shows the virtual one.
> 
> Maybe I'll provide a better more in-depth example with both sides and above
> explanation in the commit msg for v4..

Yes, FWIW my mental model is that "leaking" host information into the
container is best avoided. Not a problem, but shouldn't be done without
a clear reason.
Typical debug scenario can be covered from the host side (container X
is having issues with queue Y, dump all the queues, find out which one
is bound to X/Y).

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24 23:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-20 16:23 [PATCH net-next v3 00/15] netkit: Support for io_uring zero-copy and AF_XDP Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/15] net: Add bind-queue operation Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 11:19   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-24  2:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-24 10:15     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-24 18:11       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-10-24 19:17         ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/15] net: Implement netdev_nl_bind_queue_doit Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 11:17   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-22 11:26     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-23 10:17   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-10-23 12:46     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-23 10:27   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-10-23 12:48     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-24  2:08       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-28 21:59         ` David Wei
2025-10-28 23:44           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-29  0:38             ` David Wei
2025-10-24  2:28   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-28 22:41     ` David Wei
2025-10-29 16:46       ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-24 18:20   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-10-24 19:15     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/15] net: Add peer info to queue-get response Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 11:23   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-24  2:33   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-24 12:59     ` Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-24 23:18       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-10-29  2:08         ` David Wei
2025-10-29 22:47           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/15] net, ethtool: Disallow peered real rxqs to be resized Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 11:25   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/15] net: Proxy net_mp_{open,close}_rxq for mapped queues Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 12:50   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-24 18:36   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-10-29  2:07     ` David Wei
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/15] xsk: Move NETDEV_XDP_ACT_ZC into generic header Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 12:51   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/15] xsk: Move pool registration into single function Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 12:52   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/15] xsk: Add small helper xp_pool_bindable Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 12:52   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/15] xsk: Change xsk_rcv_check to check netdev/queue_id from pool Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/15] xsk: Proxy pool management for mapped queues Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/15] netkit: Add single device mode for netkit Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 13:13   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/15] netkit: Document fast vs slowpath members via macros Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 13:02   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/15] netkit: Implement rtnl_link_ops->alloc and ndo_queue_create Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 13:00   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/15] netkit: Add io_uring zero-copy support for TCP Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 13:12   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-10-20 16:23 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/15] netkit: Add xsk support for af_xdp applications Daniel Borkmann
2025-10-22 14:27   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov

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