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From: Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 08/15] net: dsa: sja1105: transition OF-based MDIO drivers to standalone
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 12:00:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251121120037.GA1117685@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251120195941.qumgpiwvkxvfjkug@skbuf>

On Thu, 20 Nov 2025, Vladimir Oltean wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 04:36:03PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > The canonical answer goes 3 ways: If you want to use the MFD API, move
> > the handling to drivers/mfd.
> 
> Wait, so now it's negotiable? What about "this device is not an MFD"
> from the other patch? Move it to another folder and suddenly it's an MFD?
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20251120153622.p6sy77coa3de6srw@skbuf/

The "canonical answer" is the general answer, the one that applies to
everyone, not just your use-case.  I'm not (yet?) convinced that this is
an MFD, so at the moment, option one is not on the table for you.

> > If it's possible, use one of the predetermined helpers like
> > of_platform_populate() (and I think we authored another one that
> > worked around some of its issues, but I forget where we put it!).
> 
> yay...
> 
> I don't need the code necessarily, just the overall idea if you remember it.

It was an extension to "simple-bus".  Perhaps "simple-mfd"?

Again, it might not work for you, but it's an avenue worth exploring.

> > Or if all else fails, you have to register the device the old
> > fashioned way with the platform_device_*() API.
> 
> Do you realize that by this, you are inviting me to waste time until the
> next reviewer rightfully asks, why didn't you use MFD, then I'll point
> them towards this discussion, but you didn't really answer?

This is still an abuse of the MFD API.  Used outside of the subsystem
for something that isn't an MFD.  I like the idea of not duplicating
code, but the fact remains that this is a hack.

Another more recent avenue you may explore is the Auxiliary Bus.

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-21 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-18 19:05 [PATCH net-next 00/15] Probe SJA1105 DSA children using MFD and dynamic OF nodes Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] net: dsa: sja1105: let phylink help with the replay of link callbacks Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] net: mdio-regmap: permit working with non-MMIO regmaps Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 14:35   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] net: mdio: add driver for NXP SJA1110 100BASE-T1 embedded PHYs Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] net: mdio: add generic driver for NXP SJA1110 100BASE-TX " Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 17:55   ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-11-20 18:49     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] net: dsa: sja1105: prepare regmap for passing to child devices Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] net: dsa: sja1105: include spi.h from sja1105.h Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] mfd: core: add ability for cells to probe on a custom parent OF node Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 14:41   ` Lee Jones
2025-11-20 15:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-21 12:06       ` Lee Jones
2025-11-21 17:03         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-26 10:20           ` Lee Jones
2025-12-15 15:50           ` Lee Jones
2025-12-16  0:29             ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-16  9:18               ` Lee Jones
2025-12-16 16:24                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-12-17  9:31                 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] net: dsa: sja1105: transition OF-based MDIO drivers to standalone Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 14:40   ` Lee Jones
2025-11-20 15:14     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 16:36       ` Lee Jones
2025-11-20 19:59         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-21 12:00           ` Lee Jones [this message]
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] net: dsa: sja1105: remove sja1105_mdio_private Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] net: pcs: xpcs: introduce xpcs_create_pcs_fwnode() Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] net: pcs: xpcs-plat: convert to regmap Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] dt-bindings: net: dsa: sja1105: document the PCS nodes Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-20 17:30   ` Rob Herring
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] net: pcs: xpcs-plat: add NXP SJA1105/SJA1110 support Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] net: dsa: sja1105: replace mdiobus-pcs with xpcs-plat driver Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-19  0:41   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-19  9:59     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-19 10:31       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-19 11:25         ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-19 16:11           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-19 16:17             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-19 17:23               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-19 17:39                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-19 18:35                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-19 19:33                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-20 12:32             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-20 15:00               ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-19 11:19   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-19 12:01     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-19 12:03       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-19 12:05         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-19 13:28           ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-11-19 12:01   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-20  0:01   ` kernel test robot
2025-11-18 19:05 ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] net: dsa: sja1105: permit finding the XPCS via pcs-handle Vladimir Oltean

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