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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Lukasz Majewski <lukma@denx.de>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Divya.Koppera@microchip.com,
	Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 1/1] Documentation: net: add flow control guide and document ethtool API
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2025 10:32:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251128103259.258f6fa5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aSljeggP5UHYhFaP@pengutronix.de>

On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 09:55:22 +0100 Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>  * **Constraint Checking:**
>  *   Drivers MUST accept a setting of @autoneg (true) even if generic
>  *   link autonegotiation ('ethtool -s / --change') is currently disabled.
>  *   This allows the user to pre-configure the desired policy for future
>  *   link modes.

!? I pointed out so many times that this contradicts the long standing
recommendation.

Can you please tell me what is preventing us from deprecating pauseparam
API *for autoneg* and using linkmodes which are completely unambiguous.
And allows the user to "pre configure" the advertisement.

The pause set API should remain primarily for forced mode configuration.
Perhaps the move is to make it read only for new drivers when aneg is
turned on?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-28 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-19 14:03 [PATCH net-next v8 1/1] Documentation: net: add flow control guide and document ethtool API Oleksij Rempel
2025-11-26  2:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-26  8:36   ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-11-26 22:42     ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-27  9:20       ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-11-27 15:07         ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-27 15:31           ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-11-27 15:48             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-27 16:18               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-27 16:14           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28  1:21             ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-27 16:10         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28  1:27     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28  1:47       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28  8:55         ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-11-28  9:35           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 18:32           ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-11-28 20:16             ` Andrew Lunn
2025-11-28 20:38               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-11-28 22:17                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-12-01  9:49                   ` Oleksij Rempel

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