From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>, Moshe Shemesh <moshe@nvidia.com>,
Carolina Jubran <cjubran@nvidia.com>,
Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@nvidia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V4 02/14] documentation: networking: add shared devlink documentation
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2025 19:19:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251128191924.7c54c926@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hidhx467pn6pcisuoxdw3pykyvnlq7rdicmjksbozw4dtqysti@yd5lin3qft4q>
On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 12:00:13 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> +Shared devlink instances allow multiple physical functions (PFs) on the same
> >> +chip to share an additional devlink instance for chip-wide operations. This
> >> +should be implemented within individual drivers alongside the individual PF
> >> +devlink instances, not replacing them.
> >> +
> >> +The shared devlink instance should be backed by a faux device and should
> >> +provide a common interface for operations that affect the entire chip
> >> +rather than individual PFs.
> >
> >If we go with this we must state very clearly that this is a crutch and
> >_not_ the recommended configuration...
>
> Why "not recommented". If there is a usecase for this in a dirrerent
> driver, it is probably good to utilize the shared instance, isn't it?
> Perhaps I'm missing something.
Having a single instance seems preferable from user's point of view.
> >... because presumably we could use this infra to manage a single
> >devlink instance? Which is what I asked for initially.
>
> I'm not sure I follow. If there is only one PF bound, there is 1:1
> relationship. Depends on how many PFs of the same ASIC you have.
I'm talking about multi-PF devices. mlx5 supports multi-PF setup for
NUMA locality IIUC. In such configurations per-PF parameters can be
configured on PCI PF ports.
> >Why can't this mutex live in the core?
>
> Well, the mutex protect the list of instances which are managed in the
> driver. If you want to move the mutex, I don't see how to do it without
> moving all the code related to shared devlink instances, including faux
> probe etc. Is that what you suggest?
Multiple ways you can solve it, but drivers should have to duplicate
all the instance management and locking. BTW please don't use guard().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-29 3:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-25 20:05 [PATCH net-next V4 00/14] devlink and mlx5: Support cross-function rate scheduling Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 01/14] devlink: Reverse locking order for nested instances Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 02/14] documentation: networking: add shared devlink documentation Tariq Toukan
2025-11-28 4:16 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-28 11:00 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-29 3:19 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2025-12-01 10:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-12-01 21:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-12-02 7:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-12-02 18:14 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-12-03 10:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-12-04 18:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-12-05 9:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 03/14] devlink: Add helpers to lock nested-in instances Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 04/14] devlink: Refactor devlink_rate_nodes_check Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 05/14] devlink: Decouple rate storage from associated devlink object Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 06/14] devlink: Add parent dev to devlink API Tariq Toukan
2025-11-27 15:28 ` Simon Horman
2025-11-27 19:18 ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 07/14] devlink: Allow parent dev for rate-set and rate-new Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 08/14] devlink: Allow rate node parents from other devlinks Tariq Toukan
2025-11-28 4:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-11-28 9:57 ` Cosmin Ratiu
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 09/14] net/mlx5: Introduce shared devlink instance for PFs on same chip Tariq Toukan
2025-11-29 14:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 10/14] net/mlx5: Expose a function to clear a vport's parent Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 11/14] net/mlx5: Store QoS sched nodes in the sh_devlink Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 12/14] net/mlx5: qos: Support cross-device tx scheduling Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 13/14] net/mlx5: qos: Enable cross-device scheduling Tariq Toukan
2025-11-25 20:06 ` [PATCH net-next V4 14/14] net/mlx5: Document devlink rates Tariq Toukan
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