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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, "Bui Quang Minh" <minhquangbui99@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/3] virtio-net: make refill work a per receive queue work
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2025 11:27:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251225112729-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEs7_-=-8w=7gW8R_EhzfWOwuDoj4p-iCPQ7areOa9uaUw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 25, 2025 at 03:33:29PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 9:48 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 24, 2025 at 09:37:14AM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jason,
> > >
> > > I'm wondering why we even need this refill work. Why not simply let NAPI retry
> > > the refill on its next run if the refill fails? That would seem much simpler.
> > > This refill work complicates maintenance and often introduces a lot of
> > > concurrency issues and races.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > refill work can refill from GFP_KERNEL, napi only from ATOMIC.
> >
> > And if GFP_ATOMIC failed, aggressively retrying might not be a great idea.
> 
> Btw, I see some drivers are doing things as Xuan said. E.g
> mlx5e_napi_poll() did:
> 
> busy |= INDIRECT_CALL_2(rq->post_wqes,
>                                 mlx5e_post_rx_mpwqes,
>                                 mlx5e_post_rx_wqes,
> 
> ...
> 
> if (busy) {
>          if (likely(mlx5e_channel_no_affinity_change(c))) {
>                 work_done = budget;
>                 goto out;
> ...


is busy a GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure?

> >
> > Not saying refill work is a great hack, but that is the reason for it.
> > --
> > MST
> >
> 
> Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-25 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-23 15:25 [PATCH net 0/3] virtio-net: fix the deadlock when disabling rx NAPI Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 1/3] virtio-net: make refill work a per receive queue work Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24  0:52   ` Jason Wang
2025-12-24  1:37     ` Xuan Zhuo
2025-12-24  1:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 16:49         ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-25 15:55           ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-25 16:27             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-25  7:33         ` Jason Wang
2025-12-25 16:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2025-12-26  1:31             ` Jason Wang
2025-12-26  7:37               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-29  2:57                 ` Jason Wang
2025-12-30 16:28                 ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-30 16:44                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 16:43     ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24  1:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 10:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 17:03     ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 2/3] virtio-net: ensure rx NAPI is enabled before enabling refill work Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24  1:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-24 17:49     ` Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 10:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-12-23 15:25 ` [PATCH net 3/3] virtio-net: schedule the pending refill work after being enabled Bui Quang Minh
2025-12-24 10:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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