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From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: davem@davemloft.net
Cc: "Maxime Chevallier" <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
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	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Oleksij Rempel" <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Nicolò Veronese" <nicveronese@gmail.com>,
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	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Romain Gantois" <romain.gantois@bootlin.com>,
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	"Tariq Toukan" <tariqt@nvidia.com>
Subject: [PATCH net-next v22 14/14] Documentation: networking: Document the phy_port infrastructure
Date: Thu,  8 Jan 2026 09:00:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260108080041.553250-15-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260108080041.553250-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>

This documentation aims at describing the main goal of the phy_port
infrastructure.

Reviewed-by: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Reviewed-by: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Tested-by: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Signed-off-by: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
---
 Documentation/networking/index.rst    |   1 +
 Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst | 111 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 MAINTAINERS                           |   2 +
 3 files changed, 114 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst

diff --git a/Documentation/networking/index.rst b/Documentation/networking/index.rst
index 75db2251649b..49fcfa577711 100644
--- a/Documentation/networking/index.rst
+++ b/Documentation/networking/index.rst
@@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ Contents:
    packet_mmap
    phonet
    phy-link-topology
+   phy-port
    pktgen
    plip
    ppp_generic
diff --git a/Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst b/Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..6e28d9094bce
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,111 @@
+.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
+.. _phy_port:
+
+=================
+Ethernet ports
+=================
+
+This document is a basic description of the phy_port infrastructure,
+introduced to represent physical interfaces of Ethernet devices.
+
+Without phy_port, we already have quite a lot of information about what the
+media-facing interface of a NIC can do and looks like, through the
+:c:type:`struct ethtool_link_ksettings <ethtool_link_ksettings>` attributes,
+which includes :
+
+ - What the NIC can do through the :c:member:`supported` field
+ - What the Link Partner advertises through :c:member:`lp_advertising`
+ - Which features we're advertising through :c:member:`advertising`
+
+We also have info about the number of pairs and the PORT type. These settings
+are built by aggregating together information reported by various devices that
+are sitting on the link :
+
+  - The NIC itself, through the :c:member:`get_link_ksettings` callback
+  - Precise information from the MAC and PCS by using phylink in the MAC driver
+  - Information reported by the PHY device
+  - Information reported by an SFP module (which can itself include a PHY)
+
+This model however starts showing its limitations when we consider devices that
+have more than one media interface. In such a case, only information about the
+actively used interface is reported, and it's not possible to know what the
+other interfaces can do. In fact, we have very little information about whether
+or not there are any other media interfaces.
+
+The goal of the phy_port representation is to provide a way of representing a
+physical interface of a NIC, regardless of what is driving the port (NIC through
+a firmware, SFP module, Ethernet PHY).
+
+Multi-port interfaces examples
+==============================
+
+Several cases of multi-interface NICs have been observed so far :
+
+Internal MII Mux::
+
+  +------------------+
+  | SoC              |
+  |          +-----+ |           +-----+
+  | +-----+  |     |-------------| PHY |
+  | | MAC |--| Mux | |   +-----+ +-----+
+  | +-----+  |     |-----| SFP |
+  |          +-----+ |   +-----+
+  +------------------+
+
+Internal Mux with internal PHY::
+
+  +------------------------+
+  | SoC                    |
+  |          +-----+ +-----+
+  | +-----+  |     |-| PHY |
+  | | MAC |--| Mux | +-----+   +-----+
+  | +-----+  |     |-----------| SFP |
+  |          +-----+       |   +-----+
+  +------------------------+
+
+External Mux::
+
+  +---------+
+  | SoC     |  +-----+  +-----+
+  |         |  |     |--| PHY |
+  | +-----+ |  |     |  +-----+
+  | | MAC |----| Mux |  +-----+
+  | +-----+ |  |     |--| PHY |
+  |         |  +-----+  +-----+
+  |         |     |
+  |    GPIO-------+
+  +---------+
+
+Double-port PHY::
+
+  +---------+
+  | SoC     | +-----+
+  |         | |     |--- RJ45
+  | +-----+ | |     |
+  | | MAC |---| PHY |   +-----+
+  | +-----+ | |     |---| SFP |
+  +---------+ +-----+   +-----+
+
+phy_port aims at providing a path to support all the above topologies, by
+representing the media interfaces in a way that's agnostic to what's driving
+the interface. the struct phy_port object has its own set of callback ops, and
+will eventually be able to report its own ksettings::
+
+             _____      +------+
+            (     )-----| Port |
+ +-----+   (       )    +------+
+ | MAC |--(   ???   )
+ +-----+   (       )    +------+
+            (_____)-----| Port |
+                        +------+
+
+Next steps
+==========
+
+As of writing this documentation, only ports controlled by PHY devices are
+supported. The next steps will be to add the Netlink API to expose these
+to userspace and add support for raw ports (controlled by some firmware, and directly
+managed by the NIC driver).
+
+Another parallel task is the introduction of a MII muxing framework to allow the
+control of non-PHY driver multi-port setups.
diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
index 63a525e4bde7..a4122b717783 100644
--- a/MAINTAINERS
+++ b/MAINTAINERS
@@ -9398,6 +9398,7 @@ F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-connector.yaml
 F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-phy.yaml
 F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/mdio*
 F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/qca,ar803x.yaml
+F:	Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst
 F:	Documentation/networking/phy.rst
 F:	drivers/net/mdio/
 F:	drivers/net/mdio/acpi_mdio.c
@@ -18213,6 +18214,7 @@ F:	net/ethtool/phy.c
 NETWORKING [ETHTOOL PHY PORT]
 M:	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
 F:	Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/ethernet-connector.yaml
+F:	Documentation/networking/phy-port.rst
 F:	drivers/net/phy/phy_port.c
 F:	include/linux/phy_port.h
 K:	struct\s+phy_port|phy_port_
-- 
2.49.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-08  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-08  8:00 [PATCH net-next v22 00/14] net: phy: Introduce PHY ports representation Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 01/14] dt-bindings: net: Introduce the ethernet-connector description Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-13 14:46   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 02/14] net: ethtool: Introduce ETHTOOL_LINK_MEDIUM_* values Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08 16:53   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 03/14] net: phy: Introduce PHY ports representation Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08 16:59   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 04/14] net: phy: dp83822: Add support for phy_port representation Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 05/14] dt-bindings: net: dp83822: Deprecate ti,fiber-mode Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 06/14] net: phy: Create a phy_port for PHY-driven SFPs Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 07/14] net: phy: Introduce generic SFP handling for PHY drivers Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 08/14] net: phy: marvell-88x2222: Support SFP through phy_port interface Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 09/14] net: phy: marvell: " Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 10/14] net: phy: marvell10g: Support SFP through phy_port Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 11/14] net: phy: at803x: Support SFP through phy_port interface Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 12/14] net: phy: qca807x: " Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 13/14] net: phy: Only rely on phy_port for PHY-driven SFP Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-08  8:00 ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]
2026-01-14  3:00 ` [PATCH net-next v22 00/14] net: phy: Introduce PHY ports representation patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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