From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>
Cc: Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@linux.microsoft.com>,
"linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org" <linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>,
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Paul Rosswurm <paulros@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH V2,net-next, 1/2] net: mana: Add support for coalesced RX packets on CQE
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 18:14:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260115181434.4494fe9f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA3PR21MB38673CA4DDE618A5D9C4FA99CA8CA@SA3PR21MB3867.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 19:57:44 +0000 Haiyang Zhang wrote:
> > > When coalescing is enabled, the device waits for packets which can
> > > have the CQE coalesced with previous packet(s). That coalescing process
> > > is finished (and a CQE written to the appropriate CQ) when the CQE is
> > > filled with 4 pkts, or time expired, or other device specific logic is
> > > satisfied.
> >
> > See, what I'm afraid is happening here is that you are enabling
> > completion coalescing (how long the device keeps the CQE pending).
> > Which is _not_ what rx_max_coalesced_frames controls for most NICs.
> > For most NICs rx_max_coalesced_frames controls IRQ generation logic.
> >
> > The NIC first buffers up CQEs for typically single digit usecs, and
> > then once CQE timer exipred and writeback happened it starts an IRQ
> > coalescing timer. Once the IRQ coalescing timer expires IRQ is
> > triggered, which schedules NAPI. (broad strokes, obviously many
> > differences and optimizations exist)
> >
> > Is my guess correct? Are you controlling CQE coalescing>
> >
> > Can you control the timeout instead of the frame count?
>
> Our NIC's timeout value cannot be controlled by driver. Also, the
> timeout may be changed in future NIC HW.
>
> So, I use the ethtool/rx-frames, which is either 1 or 4 on our
> NIC, to switch the CQE coalescing feature on/off.
I feel like this is not the first time I'm having a conversation with
you where you are not answering my direct questions, not just one
sliver. IDK why you're doing this, but being able to participate
in an email exchange is a bare minimum for participating upstream.
Please consider this a warning.
If I interpret your reply correctly you are indeed coalescing writeback.
You need to add a new param to the uAPI. Please add both size and
timeout. Expose the timeout as read only if your device doesn't support
controlling it per queue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-16 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-06 20:46 [PATCH V2,net-next, 0/2] net: mana: Add support for coalesced RX packets Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-06 20:46 ` [PATCH V2,net-next, 1/2] net: mana: Add support for coalesced RX packets on CQE Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-06 21:50 ` Long Li
2026-01-10 1:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-12 21:01 ` [EXTERNAL] " Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-13 1:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-13 15:09 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-13 15:13 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-14 1:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-14 18:27 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-15 2:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-15 19:57 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-16 2:14 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-01-16 16:44 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-17 16:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-17 18:01 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-17 22:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-18 18:31 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-02-22 21:32 ` Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-06 20:46 ` [PATCH V2,net-next, 2/2] net: mana: Add ethtool counters for RX CQEs in coalesced type Haiyang Zhang
2026-01-06 22:10 ` Long Li
2026-01-10 1:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-12 21:03 ` [EXTERNAL] " Haiyang Zhang
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