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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <npitre@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] compiler_types: Introduce inline_for_performance
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2026 22:58:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260118225802.5e658c2a@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260118114724.cb7b7081109e88d4fa3c5836@linux-foundation.org>

On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 11:47:24 -0800
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2026 15:24:48 +0000 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> 
> > inline keyword is often ignored by compilers.
> > 
> > We need something slightly stronger in networking fast paths
> > but __always_inline is too strong.
> > 
> > Instead, generalize idea Nicolas used in commit d533cb2d2af4
> > ("__arch_xprod64(): make __always_inline when optimizing for performance")
> > 
> > This will help CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y users keeping
> > their kernels small.  
> 
> This is good.  __always_inline is ambiguous and the name lacks
> commentary value.
> 
> If we take away __always_inline's for-performance role then what
> remains?  __always_inline is for tricky things where the compiler needs
> to be coerced into doing what we want?
> 
> IOW, I wonder if we should take your concept further, create more
> fine-grained controls over this which have self-explanatory names.
> 
> 
> 
> mm/ alone has 74 __always_inlines, none are documented, I don't know
> why they're present, many are probably wrong.
> 
> Shit, uninlining only __get_user_pages_locked does this:
> 
>    text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
>  115703	  14018	     64	 129785	  1faf9	mm/gup.o
>  103866	  13058	     64	 116988	  1c8fc	mm/gup.o-after

The next questions are does anything actually run faster (either way),
and should anything at all be marked 'inline' rather than 'always_inline'.

After all, if you call a function twice (not in a loop) you may
want a real function in order to avoid I-cache misses.

I've had to mark things that are called once 'always_inline', and
also 'big looking' functions that are called with constants and optimise
to almost nothing.

But I'm sure there is a lot of code that is 'inline_for_bloat' :-)
(Don't talk to me about C++ class definitions....)

On 32bit you probably don't want to inline __arch_xprod_64(), but you do
want to pass (bias ? m : 0) and may want separate functions for the
'no overflow' case (if it is common enough to worry about).

	David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-18 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-18 15:24 [PATCH] compiler_types: Introduce inline_for_performance Eric Dumazet
2026-01-18 15:32 ` Florian Westphal
2026-01-18 15:39   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-01-18 18:36 ` kernel test robot
2026-01-18 22:33   ` David Laight
2026-01-18 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-18 20:38   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-01-18 22:58   ` David Laight [this message]
2026-01-19  0:01     ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-19  9:33       ` David Laight
2026-01-19 10:25         ` Eric Dumazet
2026-01-19 10:33           ` Eric Dumazet
2026-01-19 10:50           ` David Laight
2026-01-19 15:47     ` Nicolas Pitre
2026-01-19 19:03       ` David Laight
2026-01-19 19:44         ` Nicolas Pitre
2026-01-18 21:04 ` kernel test robot

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