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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 06/22] net: stmmac: rk: add SoC specific ->init() method
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 18:54:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260126185419.626ba56e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXgbEYvjcXqQKRIx@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 01:55:29 +0000 Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 05:16:06PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 00:59:05 +0000 Russell King (Oracle) wrote:  
> > > This sounds like my contributions to netdev aren't valued, and if that's
> > > the case, I will stop.  
> > 
> > Quite the opposite, what I'm saying is that your complaints make me
> > feel like the weekends spent on trying to make this project come out 
> > of stone age testing-wise are not appreciated. Of course your
> > contributions are appreciated.
> > 
> > The AI code reviews on existing buggy code are indeed very painful.
> > Not sure what we can do here to make the contributing easier.
> > It costs us around $2 now to review a single patch so we can't afford
> > public access. I think Google is working on making Gemini code reviews
> > public and free, hopefully that materializes.  
> 
> For a series of this size and complexity, the AI reviews are valued
> because it's finding real issues that I can't test for.
> 
> The big problem is that the AI only finds one issue with a patch, not
> all the issues. So, it's going to take multiple submissions to get to
> a point where the AI review of this series is clean.
> 
> I suspect the problem with "AI only finds one issue" is that the AI
> systems aren't advanced enough to do anything else yet.

Yes, looking at its "reasoning" output it both goes down different
investigation paths each time but more importantly it runs out of
tokens at some point, so it won't cover all the same paths each time.

> So, do I continue fixing the AI issues each day and resubmitting a new
> version of this series each day this week, costing $44 each time?

I think so.. I don't want to change our process because of AI, but 
some ways to save cost rhyme with our normal recommendations.
Keep the series under 15 patches. Split the series up, and extract
trivial patches out so that they can be applied and not reposted.

> Do we reach a point where it gets merged even though the AI review
> still has issues?

Whether the comment comes from AI is secondary, so it's just a question
of whether we merge code knowing that it has issues. Rarely, I guess.

> These are honest questions... and if they haven't been considered, I
> think they need to be, because I can see this series becoming very
> expensive.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-27  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-26 11:44 [PATCH net-next v2 00/22] net: stmmac: rk: simplify per-SoC configuration Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/22] net: stmmac: rk: avoid phy_power_on() Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/22] net: stmmac: rk: get rid of rk_phy_power_ctl() Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/22] net: stmmac: rk: convert rk3328 to use bsp_priv->id Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/22] net: stmmac: rk: group MACPHY register offset and fields together Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/22] net: stmmac: rk: add GMAC_CLK_xx constants, simplify RGMII definitions Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/22] net: stmmac: rk: add SoC specific ->init() method Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 14:34   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  0:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  0:59       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  1:16         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  1:55           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  2:54             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-01-27  0:40   ` [net-next,v2,06/22] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  0:51     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27 11:09       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27 16:18         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 16:42           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27 18:38             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/22] net: stmmac: rk: convert to mask-based interface mode configuration Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  0:40   ` [net-next,v2,07/22] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27  0:53     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/22] net: stmmac: rk: convert rk3588 to mask-based interface mode config Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 22:19   ` kernel test robot
2026-01-27  0:41   ` [net-next,v2,08/22] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/22] net: stmmac: rk: move speed GRF register offset to private data Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/22] net: stmmac: rk: convert rk3588 to rk_set_reg_speed() Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/22] net: stmmac: rk: remove rk3528 RMII clock initialisation Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/22] net: stmmac: rk: use rk_encode_wm16() for RGMII clocks Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/22] net: stmmac: rk: use rk_encode_wm16() for RMII speed Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/22] net: stmmac: rk: use rk_encode_wm16() for RMII clock Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 15/22] net: stmmac: rk: remove need for ->set_speed() method Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 16/22] net: stmmac: rk: convert px30 Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 17/22] net: stmmac: rk: introduce flags indicating support for RGMII/RMII Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 18/22] net: stmmac: rk: replace empty set_to_rmii() with supports_rmii Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 19/22] net: stmmac: rk: rk3328: gmac2phy only supports RMII Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 20/22] net: stmmac: rk: rk3528: gmac0 " Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 21/22] net: stmmac: rk: use rk_encode_wm16() for clock selection Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  0:41   ` [net-next,v2,21/22] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-26 11:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 22/22] net: stmmac: rk: rk3506, rk3528 and kk3588 have rmii_mode in clock register Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-27  0:41   ` [net-next,v2,22/22] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-27 19:00 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/22] net: stmmac: rk: simplify per-SoC configuration patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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