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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	razor@blackwall.org, pabeni@redhat.com, willemb@google.com,
	sdf@fomichev.me, john.fastabend@gmail.com, martin.lau@kernel.org,
	jordan@jrife.io, maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com,
	magnus.karlsson@intel.com, toke@redhat.com,
	yangzhenze@bytedance.com, wangdongdong.6@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 15/16] selftests/net: Add env for container based tests
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 10:41:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260202104136.4a7adbdf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9037828b-c7fd-4eb1-9dd8-19ee49063361@davidwei.uk>

On Mon, 2 Feb 2026 07:53:34 +0900 David Wei wrote:
> On 2026-02-01 09:38, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > I'm not a Python expert but the pre-init of variables that are set
> > later on in __init__() (on all possible paths) seems like a waste of LoC  
> 
> It's so that exceptions thrown -> __del__() don't complain about
> undefined vars.

I see. I guess that's cleaner than hasattr(self, "xyz"), fair.

> >> +
> >> +        ip(f"link add type netkit mode l2 forward peer forward numrxqueues {rxqueues}")  
> > 
> > Would we be able to do this with YNL?
> > no big deal but always nice to avoid the dependency on very latest CLI  
> 
> Hmm, I tried looking into this already. My understanding is that this
> can be done in C but not currently in YNL, not without adding a spec.

I thought the only thing C can do that Python can't is deciding nested
extacks.. Ah, of course.. I missed that patch 10 is not updating the
YAML spec. That needs to be fixed, we want YAML to stay in sync for the
families that are already YAML-ized.

> >> +    def _setup_ns(self):
> >> +        self.netns = NetNS()
> >> +        cmd("ip netns attach init 1")
> >> +        self._init_ns_attached = True
> >> +        ip("netns set init 0", ns=self.netns)  
> > 
> > Hm, refactor class NetNSEnter or just use its enter method?  
> 
> I did consider this but I didn't feel like it fit the very specific
> purpose of NetNSEnter. I needed the init ns to have a valid nsid from
> within the test netns, which I didn't think many other tests would need.

What about the "ip netns attach init 1" ?
that's the main thing that gave me pause TBH
Why is it needed?

> > Don't we need to also add a qdisc if there isn't one already?  
> 
> Sorry, why would qdisc be needed? The bpf prog attaches to tc. I don't
> know anything about qdisc, though.

There's a new way of attaching qdisc-less (TCX) but IIUC here you're
attaching in the old way. So you must have a parent object. The ingress
/ clsact qdisc isn't really for queuing packets, it's just a fake qdisc
that lets you attach TC filters to an interface. Machines at Meta have 
a clsact qdisc installed by init, but that's far from normal (try to
run this command in vng, you'll see)

> >> +        match = re.search(r'pref (\d+).*nk_forward\.bpf.*id (\d+)', tc_info)  
> > 
> > I haven't checked but TC doesn't support enough JSON and YNL doesn't
> > support enough TC to avoid re hacks? :( :(  
> 
> Yeah the old TC tool doesn't give me this info programmatically :(
> 
> Borkmann mentioned TC is outdated/unmaintained. I did use tcx via a C
> loader before, but that was removed in an earlier iteration.

Not sure what you're saying. tc bpf CLI supports JSON output since:

commit 3175bca7182b0867c6e9a3d5d1551fdecf70118c
Author: Davide Caratti <dcaratti@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu Apr 30 20:03:30 2020 +0200

    tc: full JSON support for 'bpf' filter

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-29 22:28 [PATCH net-next v8 00/16] netkit: Support for io_uring zero-copy and AF_XDP Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 01/16] net: Add queue-create operation Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 02/16] net: Implement netdev_nl_queue_create_doit Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-31 23:45   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-05  4:38     ` Daniel Borkmann
2026-03-06  2:10       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-06  5:49         ` Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 03/16] net: Add lease info to queue-get response Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-31 23:43   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01  0:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 04/16] net, ethtool: Disallow leased real rxqs to be resized Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-31 23:45   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 05/16] net: Slightly simplify net_mp_{open,close}_rxq Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-31 23:48   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 06/16] net: Proxy net_mp_{open,close}_rxq for leased queues Daniel Borkmann
2026-02-01  0:02   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01 22:09     ` David Wei
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 07/16] net: Proxy netdev_queue_get_dma_dev " Daniel Borkmann
2026-02-01  0:04   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01 22:23     ` David Wei
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 08/16] xsk: Extend xsk_rcv_check validation Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 09/16] xsk: Proxy pool management for leased queues Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 10/16] netkit: Add single device mode for netkit Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 11/16] netkit: Implement rtnl_link_ops->alloc and ndo_queue_create Daniel Borkmann
2026-02-01  0:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01 22:27     ` David Wei
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 12/16] netkit: Add netkit notifier to check for unregistering devices Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 13/16] netkit: Add xsk support for af_xdp applications Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 14/16] selftests/net: Add bpf skb forwarding program Daniel Borkmann
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 15/16] selftests/net: Add env for container based tests Daniel Borkmann
2026-02-01  0:38   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01 22:53     ` David Wei
2026-02-02 18:41       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-02-10  0:25         ` David Wei
2026-02-05  2:08       ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-02-05  2:34         ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-02-10 17:30           ` David Wei
2026-01-29 22:28 ` [PATCH net-next v8 16/16] selftests/net: Add netkit container tests Daniel Borkmann
2026-02-01  0:24   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-01 22:54     ` David Wei
2026-02-05  1:44   ` Bobby Eshleman

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