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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: David Yang <mmyangfl@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: yt921x: Use u64_stats_t for MIB stats
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 07:39:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260205073913.1859434a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAXyoMNUSQXNCdzLWNimvu7TPV8+60GVcQASFCS2-N3d9MAmsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 13:32:29 +0800 David Yang wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 1:12 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed,  4 Feb 2026 01:12:43 +0800 David Yang wrote:  
> > > 64-bit variables might not be atomic on 32-bit architectures, thus
> > > cannot be unconditionally made lock-free. Use u64_stats_t so it would
> > > still be lock-free on 64-bit architectures.  
> >
> > IDK why we need to worry about lock free reading of those 64b values...
> >  
> > > @@ -771,22 +785,27 @@ yt921x_dsa_get_ethtool_stats(struct dsa_switch *ds, int port, uint64_t *data)
> > >       struct yt921x_priv *priv = to_yt921x_priv(ds);
> > >       struct yt921x_port *pp = &priv->ports[port];
> > >       struct yt921x_mib *mib = &pp->mib;
> > > +     unsigned int start;
> > >       size_t j;
> > >
> > >       mutex_lock(&priv->reg_lock);
> > >       yt921x_read_mib(priv, port);
> > >       mutex_unlock(&priv->reg_lock);  
> >
> > ..when in all(?) the readers converted by this patch we take the mutex
> > to refresh the stats anyway. And presumably do expensive IO/reg reads
> > under that mutex. So just extend the mutex over the read section and
> > save us the retry logic, please, it will make no difference to perf.  
> 
> .get_stats64() is atomic, that's why everyone (mostly) is using
> u64_stats_t for DSA stats.

I understand, but only ndo_get_stats64() is, all the other cases like
ethtool stats can keep holding the lock and use u64 / u64_stats_read()
without a retry.

I had this argument with people before, I don't get why people try to
microoptimize device stats so much. The u64_stats* infra is really meant
for per-CPU/per-queue software stats which must have low overhead.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 17:12 [PATCH net-next 0/3] net: dsa: yt921x: Use u64_stats_t for MIB stats David Yang
2026-02-03 17:12 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: dsa: yt921x: Refactor port error message David Yang
2026-02-05  5:07   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-03 17:12 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] net: dsa: yt921x: Return early for failed MIB read David Yang
2026-02-05  5:08   ` [net-next,2/3] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-03 17:12 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] net: dsa: yt921x: Use u64_stats_t for MIB stats David Yang
2026-02-05  5:12   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-05  5:32     ` David Yang
2026-02-05 15:39       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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