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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org,
	shuah@kernel.org, willemb@google.com, petrm@nvidia.com,
	donald.hunter@gmail.com, michael.chan@broadcom.com,
	pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: use SO_TXTIME to schedule packets together
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 17:56:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260210175638.123782b2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <willemdebruijn.kernel.743811e01cc@gmail.com>

On Sun, 08 Feb 2026 21:39:38 -0500 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > Longer packet sequence tests are quite flaky when the test is run
> > over a real network. Try to avoid at least the jitter on the sender
> > side by scheduling all the packets to be sent at once using SO_TXTIME.
> > Use hardcoded tx time of 5msec in the future. In my test increasing
> > this time past 2msec makes no difference so 5msec is plenty of margin.
> > Since we now expect more output buffering make sure to raise SNDBUF.
> > 
> > Experimenting with long sequences I see frequent failures when sending
> > 200 packets, only 50-100 packets get coalesced. With this change
> > up to 1000 packets get coalesced relatively reliably.
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Petr Machata <petrm@nvidia.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>  
> 
> Does this require having FQ installed? I don't see any qdisc config
> in the GRO test.

It's a bit of an opportunistic optimization.

I initially intended it for for the "long sequence of packets"
test. But I failed to get AF_PACKET+FQ to cooperate sufficiently
to queue all of the packets in the same bucket. Otherwise FQ "sorts"
the packets, and breaks what the test is trying to do :(

Oh, and as mentioned in the commit msg - this improvement is intended
for HW-GRO, which may have very low timeouts. The test already
configures timeout for SW GRO to a very high value, so don't think
we would gain anything from setting up FQ on veth/netdevsim for the 
SW test.

So IDK what to do with this patch. Maybe I should just drop it?
It _seemed_ useful, but I don't have enough datapoints to do a real
comparison of how much it improves reliability.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-07  0:35 [PATCH net-next v2 0/9] net: stats, tools, driver tests for HW GRO Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/9] eth: bnxt: gather and report HW-GRO stats Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-08  0:09   ` Michael Chan
2026-02-11  1:51     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] tools: ynltool: factor out qstat dumping Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/9] tools: ynltool: add qstats analysis for HW-GRO efficiency / savings Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-09  9:43   ` Petr Machata
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/9] selftests: net: move gro to lib for HW vs SW reuse Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-09  2:36   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/9] selftests: drv-net: give HW stats sync time extra 25% of margin Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-09  2:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: use SO_TXTIME to schedule packets together Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-09  2:39   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-11  1:56     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-02-11  3:15       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-11  3:48         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-11  4:21           ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-11 17:00             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-11 17:22               ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: test GRO stats Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 8/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: add test for packet ordering Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-07  0:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 9/9] selftests: drv-net: gro: add a test for GRO depth Jakub Kicinski

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