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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>
Cc: Petr Machata <me@pmachata.org>, Petr Machata <petrm@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 5/5] selftests: drivers: hw: add tests for the ethtool standard counters
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 16:07:43 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260302160743.124531f8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7hct7o4rzgygef536al6if2jl45p32ad3tdswyqf25uu5wy5re@2ltu2ems47q7>

On Mon, 2 Mar 2026 14:11:21 +0200 Ioana Ciornei wrote:
> > I agree that adherence to the drivers/net/README protocol is valuable to
> > some users and would be good to uphold if reasonable in a given tests.
> > If that's what you have in mind.
> > 
> > There are going to be tests where it's not a great fit, but I think that
> > of those NUM_NETIFS=2 tests that we currently have, maybe
> > ethtool_extended_state has a good reason to be obstinate, because it
> > sets up negotiations and needs an extra unplugged netdevice.  
> 
> I would add here even ethtool_rmon.sh and this new test that I

I think I already told you that ethool_rmon predates the NIC tests
and bringing it up in this discussion is irrelevant.

> submitted. If you are running with a traffic generator on another board
> then you can no longer check that the counter's value is as expected
> (with a 1% tolerance), you can only check the lower bound.

1% tolerance is impractical for any CI with high test count.
The test will be flaky. And I really doubt that the 1% tolerance
is really necessary to catch most bugs. We're not trying to validate
silicon here.

> Additionally, if you are using the same single port also for control
> traffic towards the remote traffic generator, then you surely cannot
> reliably check that counters that should not be incremented are indeed
> not incremented.

I both told you in this conversation how to check the counters,
and written some existing tests for counters.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-25 15:06 [PATCH net-next 0/5] net: dpaa2-mac: export standard statistics Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-25 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: dpaa2-mac: extend APIs related to statistics Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-25 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] net: dpaa2-mac: retrieve MAC statistics in one firmware command Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-27  2:26   ` [net-next,2/5] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27 10:37     ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-03-01 16:09   ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] " Simon Horman
2026-03-02 12:51     ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-25 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] net: dpaa2-mac: export standard statistics Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-25 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] selftests: forwarding: extend ethtool_std_stats_get with pause statistics Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-27 16:38   ` Petr Machata
2026-03-02 13:57     ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-03-03 13:06       ` Petr Machata
2026-02-25 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] selftests: drivers: hw: add tests for the ethtool standard counters Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-25 23:38   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-02-26  7:03     ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-26 12:19       ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-26 13:31         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-02-26 14:18           ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-27  2:25             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27  7:34               ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-02-27 14:17                 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-02-28  0:24                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-28  0:23                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27  2:22   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27 13:53     ` Petr Machata
2026-02-28  0:43       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-28  9:11         ` Petr Machata
2026-03-02 12:11           ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-03-03  0:07             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-03-03 13:53               ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-03-03 16:43                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-02-27 15:45   ` Petr Machata
2026-03-02 14:15     ` Ioana Ciornei
2026-03-03 13:30       ` Petr Machata

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