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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
Cc: "Nicolai Buchwitz" <nb@tipi-net.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev,
	nicolas.ferre@microchip.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	phil@raspberrypi.com,
	"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 2/5] net: cadence: macb: implement EEE TX LPI support
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 08:53:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260303085320.4a2c2da6@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DGSZWWKDJOFM.CCG4PBOJIRW1@bootlin.com>

On Tue, 03 Mar 2026 09:14:41 +0100 Théo Lebrun wrote:
> >> +/* Wake from LPI before transmitting. The MAC must deassert TXLPIEN
> >> + * and wait for the PHY to exit LPI before any frame can be sent.
> >> + * IEEE 802.3az Tw_sys is ~17us for 1000BASE-T, ~30us for 100BASE-TX;
> >> + * we use a conservative 50us.
> >> + */
> >> +static void macb_tx_lpi_wake(struct macb *bp)
> >> +{
> >> +	if (!macb_tx_lpi_set(bp, false))  
> >
> > Does this lpi_set() not have a relatively high cost, even if eee_active
> > is disabled? Reading registers is usually pretty slow. Can we add 
> > a eee_active check here as well to short cut the lpi check? 
> > If we do we probably want to make sure that the code paths setting
> > eee_active are also under bp->lock, otherwise this new check will be
> > racy.  
> 
> Funny how this discussion keeps coming up! I made the same remark on V3:
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/DGOXXGNSSMYK.2XNU9AQ6E077P@bootlin.com/
> 
> And it had been discussed in a previous iteration before.
> 
> In theory I agree, in practice the optimization was statistically
> insignificant on my platform. The total time spent in macb_start_xmit()
> is tiny, so any optimization inside of it is even more so.

TBH I started looking around because the v5 implementation seems racy.
Probably not in practice but in theory on a multiple queue device you
clear LPI, release the lock, then another queue may schedule LPI again,
if the xmit path is delayed for a long time the LPI work may turn idle
on before xmit rings the doorbell.

The rework I suggested is not only more optimal (dare I say logical to
an experienced developer) but also I think it'd be more correct.

macb has a crazy number of locks so maybe i'm missing something.
But sooner or later someone will hopefully start removing those locks,
cause this driver gotta be dog slow right now :/

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 15:06 [PATCH net-next v5 0/5] net: cadence: macb: add IEEE 802.3az EEE support Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-27 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/5] net: cadence: macb: add EEE LPI statistics counters Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-28 13:33   ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-02-27 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/5] net: cadence: macb: implement EEE TX LPI support Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-28 13:34   ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-03-03  2:15   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-03  8:14     ` Théo Lebrun
2026-03-03 16:53       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-02-27 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/5] net: cadence: macb: add ethtool EEE support Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-28 13:32   ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-02-27 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/5] net: cadence: macb: enable EEE for Raspberry Pi RP1 Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-28 13:31   ` Claudiu Beznea
2026-02-27 15:06 ` [PATCH net-next v5 5/5] net: cadence: macb: enable EEE for Mobileye EyeQ5 Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-02-28 13:31   ` Claudiu Beznea

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