From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: 李志 <lizhi2@eswincomputing.com>
Cc: krzk+dt@kernel.org, Bo Gan <ganboing@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 18:42:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260305-goldsmith-omnivore-21958a41ff48@spud> (raw)
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On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 10:52:38AM +0800, 李志 wrote:
>
>
>
> > -----原始邮件-----
> > 发件人: "Conor Dooley" <conor@kernel.org>
> > 发送时间:2026-03-04 17:30:57 (星期三)
> > 收件人: "Bo Gan" <ganboing@gmail.com>
> > 抄送: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>, lizhi2@eswincomputing.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk, wens@kernel.org, pjw@kernel.org, palmer@dabbelt.com, aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, alex@ghiti.fr, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ningyu@eswincomputing.com, linmin@eswincomputing.com, pinkesh.vaghela@einfochips.com, pritesh.patel@einfochips.com, weishangjuan@eswincomputing.com
> > 主题: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 05:23:18PM -0800, Bo Gan wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > On 3/3/26 16:47, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 04:38:46PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 14:16:37 +0800 lizhi2@eswincomputing.com wrote:
> > > > > > There are currently no in-tree users of the EIC7700 Ethernet driver, so
> > > > > > these changes are safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean by this sentence? The commit under Fixes was part of
> > > > > Linux v6.19 already.
> > > >
> > > > The "funny" thing is that caring about users doesn't even really matter
> > > > on the devicetree patch, except for this hunk:
> > > > |@@ -81,7 +99,9 @@ properties:
> > > > | or external clock selection
> > > > | - description: Offset of AXI clock controller Low-Power request
> > > > | register
> > > > |+ - description: Offset of register controlling TXD delay
> > > > | - description: Offset of register controlling TX/RX clock delay
> > > > |+ - description: Offset of register controlling RXD delay
> > > > |
> > > > | required:
> > > > | - compatible
> > > > And it only matters here because an item is injected mid-list. If this
> > > > was moved to the end with the RXD delay, the **dt-binding** changes
> > > > don't have issues with safety. I've not looked at whether there are
> > > > knock-on concerns about users in the driver or whatever yet, but from a
> > > > binding POV only that hunk can break something that currently works.
> > >
> > > This was already discussed here in v1:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/e7183ae1-8b8b-4e77-9f4e-3bc1b4b63556@lunn.ch/
> > >
> > > The device-tree is not checked in yet by ESWIN folks, so there's currently
> > > no user of the dt-binding. No need to worry about backward compat.
> >
> > The binding and driver exist, there doesn't need to be a dts in tree for
> > there to be potential users. If the break was important I might not
> > care, but this seems to be a gratuitous break, since the new items could
> > be added to the end of the list and compatibility maintained without
> > incurring any more difficulty for you.
>
> Hi Conor and Krzysztof,
>
> Thanks for the reviews.
>
> - The next patch will fix the property order to avoid any breakage
> with existing DT bindings.
Good, thanks.
> - Eth1 does have a timing issue in silicon, as discussed here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/32a1f814.2c79.19bfe173225.Coremail.linmin@eswincomputing.com/
>
> Based on this, and according to the advice from Andrew
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/59cec617-0189-4dc3-bc3f-6346155a62ae@lunn.ch/
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/bd202cfa-d6eb-4d0e-982d-b49795dd25f7@lunn.ch/
> adding a DT property is not a reasonable approach.
>
> In the next patch, I will improve the description/paragraph and properly
> document the timing issues.
I personally don't mind having two compatibles, but I might be more
clear about what device the new one refers to (so something like
s/clk-inversion/eth1/g). But Krzysztof was the one who objected to
having multiple compatibles, so it's worth waiting to see what he has to
say.
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-03 6:15 [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] net: stmmac: eic7700: fix EIC7700 eth1 RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-03-03 6:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] dt-bindings: ethernet: eswin: add clock sampling control lizhi2
2026-03-04 0:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-04 0:47 ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04 1:23 ` Bo Gan
2026-03-04 7:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04 9:30 ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-05 2:52 ` 李志
2026-03-05 18:42 ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2026-03-04 7:44 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-04 8:22 ` Bo Gan
2026-03-03 6:17 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/3] net: stmmac: eic7700: enable clocks before syscon access and correct RX sampling timing lizhi2
2026-03-04 0:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-05 7:11 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-05 8:10 ` kernel test robot
2026-03-03 6:17 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] riscv: dts: eswin: eic7700-hifive-premier-p550: enable Ethernet controller lizhi2
2026-03-03 10:32 ` Yao Zi
2026-03-10 7:15 ` 李志
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