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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
	<jensemil.schulzostergaard@microchip.com>,
	"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	Steen Hegelund <Steen.Hegelund@microchip.com>,
	Daniel Machon <daniel.machon@microchip.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 4/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add basic dsa driver for LAN9645X
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2026 17:10:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260305151008.c2gsaxwyhvtcs5ci@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <052cf8c8-c60b-461a-86ce-aac8d7ebf4d9@lunn.ch>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 03:58:16PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> So, the best thing to do is hard code the delays in the MAC to 0, and
> pass phy-mode to the PHY.

To extend that line of reasoning one step further. If somebody does end
up needing to configure delays in the MAC and observes that phy-mode is
acted upon only by the PHY layer, and that irrespective of phy-mode the
MAC delays are always 0, then they will turn to the rx-internal-delay-ps
and tx-internal-delay-ps properties added to the MAC OF node. Using
these has the benefit that it does not collide with the phy-mode meaning
in any way, so is not a compatibility problem.

> Now, this is a switch, so there is one complexity. Some switches make
> use of an RGMII port to connect to the host. You then have the host
> RGMII MAC connected to the switch RGMII MAC. Delays have to be added
> somewhere. Since the switch MAC is playing the role of the PHY, in the
> eyes of the host, we allow such a port to add delays.

Well, since rx-internal-delay-ps and tx-internal-delay-ps in the MAC OF
node would handle that case as well, there isn't any need really to
complicate the implementation with any custom phy-mode interpretation
there either. Introducing the concept of a "PHY role" for RGMII delays
in CPU ports is rather unnecessary given the tools we have today.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-05 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-03 12:22 [PATCH net-next 0/8] net: dsa: add DSA support for the LAN9645x switch chip family Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] net: dsa: add tag driver for LAN9645X Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 14:13   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-03 15:58     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:14       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-05 12:59         ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 16:11   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-05 13:53     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:23   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-05 13:01     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] dt-bindings: net: lan9645x: add LAN9645X switch bindings Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 13:22   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-03 16:00     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 14:18   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-03 19:04     ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04 15:57       ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-05 12:57       ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-05 18:31         ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-06 15:08           ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-06 15:20             ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-18 14:19               ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-18 17:18                 ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-18 17:20                   ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-18 17:26                     ` Christian Marangi
2026-03-24 10:31                       ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:55     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 18:49   ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04 15:58     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 18:56   ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-04 16:10     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 16:14       ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-04 19:06         ` Conor Dooley
2026-03-05 13:08           ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add autogenerated register macros Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add basic dsa driver for LAN9645X Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 14:15   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-04 14:37     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:58   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-03-05 14:24     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-05 14:58       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-05 15:10         ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2026-03-05 16:54         ` Alexander Stein
2026-03-05 17:37           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-06 15:03             ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-06 16:33               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-09 12:01                 ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-06 14:22         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-03-06 21:03           ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add bridge support Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 14:20   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-03 16:08     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 16:17       ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-05 13:14         ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 14:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-09 12:09     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add vlan support Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 14:59   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-04 14:40     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 14:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add mac table integration Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 15:27   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-04 15:23     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:34       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-05 13:17         ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-03 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] net: dsa: lan9645x: add port statistics Jens Emil Schulz Østergaard
2026-03-03 16:01   ` Vladimir Oltean
2026-03-03 20:21     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-03-04 15:51       ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard
2026-03-04 15:50     ` Jens Emil Schulz Ostergaard

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