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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Wilfred Mallawa <wilfred.mallawa@wdc.com>
Cc: "corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"dlemoal@kernel.org" <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@wdc.com>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"skhan@linuxfoundation.org" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"horms@kernel.org" <horms@kernel.org>,
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	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/3] net/tls_sw: support randomized zero padding
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:03:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260316180355.37d45785@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e9f6eb89ba95e9fbb764e2807420e98b566bf37.camel@wdc.com>

On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 00:53:07 +0000 Wilfred Mallawa wrote:
> > Or maybe you could refer to existing implementations of this feature
> > in user space libs? The padding feature seems slightly nebulous, 
> > I wasn't aware of anyone actually using it. Maybe I should ask...
> > are you actually planning to use it, or are you checking a box?  
> 
> For upcoming WD hardware, we were planning on informing users to use
> this feature if an extra layer of security can benefit their particular
> configuration. But to answer your question, I think this falls more
> into the "checking a box"...
> 
> I'm happy to drop this series if there's not much added value from
> having this as an available option for users.

I'm not much of a security person, and maybe Sabrina will disagree
but I feel like it's going to be hard for us to design this feature
in a sensible way if we don't know at least one potential attack :S

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-17  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-09  5:48 [RFC net-next 0/3] tls_sw: add tx record zero padding Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-09  5:48 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] net/tls_sw: support randomized " Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-13 13:16   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-14 14:39     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-17  0:53       ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-17  1:03         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-03-17  1:21           ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-17  1:30             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-17  1:53               ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-19  1:35                 ` Alistair Francis
2026-03-17  9:19           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-17  0:20     ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-09  5:48 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] net/tls: add randomized zero padding socket option Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-09  5:48 ` [RFC net-next 3/3] selftest: tls: add tls record zero pad test Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-13 12:13 ` [RFC net-next 0/3] tls_sw: add tx record zero padding Sabrina Dubroca
2026-03-17  0:59   ` Wilfred Mallawa

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