From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Vacek <neelx@suse.com>
Cc: edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, spasswolf@web.de, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: "Dead loop on virtual device" error without softirq-BKL on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:51:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260318145101._iaDDpbE@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPjX3FcRYNkYK2gerbRL4C9wXZPxWSs6=oTjzv5+msm4PQrfqA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2026-03-18 15:43:52 [+0100], Daniel Vacek wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 at 12:18, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
> <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >
> > On 2026-03-18 11:30:09 [+0100], Daniel Vacek wrote:
> > > > --- a/net/core/dev.c
> > > > +++ b/net/core/dev.c
> > > > @@ -4821,7 +4821,7 @@ int __dev_queue_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *sb_dev)
> > > > /* Other cpus might concurrently change txq->xmit_lock_owner
> > > > * to -1 or to their cpu id, but not to our id.
> > > > */
> > > > - if (READ_ONCE(txq->xmit_lock_owner) != cpu) {
> > > > + if (rt_mutex_owner(&txq->_xmit_lock.lock) != current) {
> > >
> > > Ain't this changing the behavior for !RT case? Previously, if it was the same thread
> > > which has already locked the queue (and hence the same CPU) evaluating this condition,
> > > the condition was skipped, which is no longer the case with this change.
> >
> > The above was me thinking and does not even compile for !RT. Commit
> > b824c3e16c190 ("net: Provide a PREEMPT_RT specific check for
> > netdev_queue::_xmit_lock") is what was merged in the end.
>
> Hmm, that means txq->xmit_lock_owner is not used at all for PREEMT_RT.
> It's pointless to even store it. Shall we care?
For PREEMPT_RT the xmit_lock_owner member is only stored and not used
otherwise. It could be removed as in ifdef-ed away but I do not care
enough to sprinkle it and the gain is little (proof me wrong). So I am
happy as-is.
As for the check itself as we have now, we detect the deadlock before it
happens and this is nice to have. The alternative (in case of a
deadlock) would be the deadlock detection in rtmutex code which would
freeze the thread.
> --nX
>
Sebastian
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2026-02-17 11:24 ` "Dead loop on virtual device" error without softirq-BKL on PREEMPT_RT Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-17 16:52 ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-17 19:10 ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-18 7:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-02-18 12:50 ` Bert Karwatzki
2026-02-26 17:29 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 10:30 ` Daniel Vacek
2026-03-18 11:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 14:43 ` Daniel Vacek
2026-03-18 14:51 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-03-18 14:58 ` Daniel Vacek
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