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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Nicolai Buchwitz <nb@tipi-net.de>
Cc: Fernando Fernandez Mancera <fmancera@suse.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mbloch@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] docs: netdev: document AI-assisted review tooling
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 00:06:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260406210657.GD1268443@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56c5bdfe2e37738e47b3b4d22e21697c@tipi-net.de>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 10:24:14PM +0200, Nicolai Buchwitz wrote:
> On 6.4.2026 21:58, Fernando Fernandez Mancera wrote:
> > [...]
> 
> > 
> > Hi Nicolai,
> > maybe I am missing something but [2] isn't from sashiko.dev but from 
> > netdev AI CI instead. See: 
> > https://netdev-ai.bots.linux.dev/ai-review.html?id=0b114a22-9aab-4265-8bfc-ea1b5bca5514
> 
> You're right, I mixed up the two systems - the example I linked was
> from the netdev AI bot, not Sashiko. My mistake on the link.
> 
> I stumbled over Sashiko when I noticed the name appearing more often
> in other reviews and then found Jonathan's LWN article about it [1].
> 
> Both tools are actively reviewing patches on the list today. I think
> it makes sense to document both rather than just one:
> 
> The netdev AI bot at netdev-ai.bots.linux.dev
> Sashiko at sashiko.dev, which posts reviews publicly on its website
> Both use the same review prompts by Chris Mason [2], so there is
> common ground - though results will vary between them due to the
> different AI models (Claude Opus for netdev-ai, Gemini for Sashiko)
> on top of the usual AI uncertainty.
> 
> I think it would be useful to document that AI reviews are happening
> but mixing AI bots might confuse people.
> 
> Agreed, I'll rework the patch to distinguish the two systems once
> the discussion has been settled.
> 
> > The documentation mentioned for running the AI locally is correctly 
> > related to netdev AI bot.
> > 
> > I think it would be useful to document that AI reviews are happening 
> > but mixing AI bots might confuse people.
> > 
> >> Check for findings on your submissions and address
> >> +valid ones before a maintainer has to relay the same questions.
> >> +
> > 
> > I wonder what would be the consequences for this. If less experienced 
> > submitters are expected to address issues pointed out by AI bots they 
> > might work on something that isn't valid. AFAIU, the AI output is only 
> > forwarded to the submitter after a maintainer reviewed it and believes 
> > it makes sense.
> 
> Fair point. The wording should make clear that the local tooling is
> an optional aid, not an obligation. I'll soften the language around
> addressing findings.
> 
> Would appreciate input on how much detail is appropriate here -
> should the doc just acknowledge that AI review exists and point to
> the tooling, or go into more detail about the workflow?

In general, if a workflow is expected by a subsystem, it should be
documented. I don't see much to be gained from not telling submitters
what they're expecting to do.

More precisely in this case, as a submitter, I would take it pretty
badly if I was told to act on the output of a tool that is prone to
hallucinations without a maintainer first triaging the comments.

> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/1063292/
> [2] https://github.com/masoncl/review-prompts/blob/main/kernel/subsystem/networking.md
> 
> >> +You can also run AI reviews locally before submitting. Instructions
> >> +and tooling are available at:
> >> +
> >> +  https://netdev-ai.bots.linux.dev/ai-local.html
> >> +
> >>   Testimonials / feedback
> >>   -----------------------
> >> 
> 
> Thanks for your input
> 
> Nicolai

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-06 21:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-06 19:40 [PATCH net-next] docs: netdev: document AI-assisted review tooling Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-04-06 19:58 ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-04-06 20:24   ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-04-06 21:06     ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-04-06 21:14     ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera

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