From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 02/10] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 15:27:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260407222738.lrartp6evfp7yhti@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eTK0o7Z7-oTB8ohvmoh-vy-Y2qjdUvbqD6HaEhOEPZmhw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 01:53:24PM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2026 at 12:11 PM Pawan Gupta
> <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 11:40:57AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > My proposal is as follows:
> > >
> > > 1. The (advanced) hypervisor can advertise to the guest (via CPUID bit
> > > or MSR bit) that the short BHB clearing sequence is adequate. This may
> > > mean either that the VM will only be hosted on pre-Alder Lake hardware
> > > or that the hypervisor will set BHI_DIS_S behind the back of the
> > > guest. Presumably, this bit would not be reported if BHI_CTRL is
> > > advertised to the guest.
> > > 2. If the guest sees this bit, then it can use the short sequence. If
> > > it doesn't see this bit, it must use the long sequence.
> >
> > Thats a good middle ground. Let me check with folks internally what they
> > think about defining a new software-only bit.
> >
> > Third case, for a guest that doesn't want BHI_DIS_S, userspace should be
> > allowed to override setting BHI_DIS_S. Then this proposed bit can indicate
> > that long sequence is required.
>
> That case can be handled by the paravirtual mitigation MSRs, right?
Yes. But, that was the part that received the most pushback.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-07 22:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-03 0:30 [PATCH v9 00/10] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:30 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] x86/bhi: x86/vmscape: Move LFENCE out of clear_bhb_loop() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 15:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-04-03 16:45 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 17:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-04-03 0:31 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] x86/bhi: Make clear_bhb_loop() effective on newer CPUs Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 18:10 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 18:52 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 20:19 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 21:34 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 21:59 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 23:16 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 23:22 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-03 23:33 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 23:39 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-04 0:21 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-04 2:21 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-04 3:49 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-06 14:23 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 16:39 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-07 16:46 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 17:11 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-07 18:40 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 19:11 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-07 20:53 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 22:27 ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2026-04-07 23:27 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 23:41 ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-08 0:47 ` Jim Mattson
2026-04-07 17:12 ` Jon Kohler
2026-04-07 17:52 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:31 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] x86/bhi: Rename clear_bhb_loop() to clear_bhb_loop_nofence() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:31 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] x86/vmscape: Rename x86_ibpb_exit_to_user to x86_predictor_flush_exit_to_user Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:31 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] x86/vmscape: Move mitigation selection to a switch() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] x86/vmscape: Use write_ibpb() instead of indirect_branch_prediction_barrier() Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] x86/vmscape: Use static_call() for predictor flush Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 14:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-04-03 16:44 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 17:26 ` Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] x86/vmscape: Deploy BHB clearing mitigation Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] x86/vmscape: Resolve conflict between attack-vectors and vmscape=force Pawan Gupta
2026-04-03 0:33 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] x86/vmscape: Add cmdline vmscape=on to override attack vector controls Pawan Gupta
2026-04-04 15:20 ` [PATCH v9 00/10] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant David Laight
2026-04-05 7:23 ` Pawan Gupta
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