From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6F143D6CB8 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2026 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1776780645; cv=none; b=utk3FhcywISYTF7V3GjThR3DvST1ecIx3CDcp5dKwImLPd0D3iB9F3PtXb1lanCQy+jLnBMNWONMIQztAsM8zOflLzQrs8OCLr+6tRkNnJvWwWLbgbzxgp0Ie0lxKYWj1QzuhplADQkxlc3AOVxMHW78ty6l79V8B7nKVnW2keM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1776780645; c=relaxed/simple; bh=BnRYqjTAvtsi8yDNEhLHJLQO5zPjpvVryHdfdcb7h1I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DZCmb8h1XJgzbDK9EUnXGh935UT19Y1A+Fs/WybUkXi9iBhPqk7Nu2YSdGUkgXVzrJnNvzEUcp8y3Gjrm0vLpZUrCAszPluIoqHatgTOjxQJuLXkIDHnjvNY0LY+uSL8qcLt6/wMF7Eq0m4rAMPvSu0AoWoq5oi/K6tQTPck/gY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=Y1+zGoYv; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="Y1+zGoYv" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF693C2BCB0; Tue, 21 Apr 2026 14:10:44 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1776780645; bh=BnRYqjTAvtsi8yDNEhLHJLQO5zPjpvVryHdfdcb7h1I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Y1+zGoYvVPMSzwR6JoAumaAAAa4TU/WYlr1FONKGkl7qGFi/d+8MDq56X9u0BD4sx RuR6kztmmS5a5dCXuhsYbfF5SWjaqvBG5iOrT9Vma9npo0PP5gsAwo4ldeiiNZLRSd F2Thk9CXBrivrnu51mkV88fnRzpcCAVFrx/2uFURherVVFtNQCVtCvemkTdhFH3+79 38BytXtLeBZrme9JYDx80STqbPXEPTj/FdSIXVCJdcYkeJmDnUPV75T7i0dEFBOgRE n2o9zbmdf/FOinz8m9u0elbKBA0lH1IMweZ+KzJtaQJnCPkEuBikFsRGmpbYEmyiUq SwXh1MiZb82Ww== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 07:10:44 -0700 From: Jakub Kicinski To: David Heidelberg Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski , Michael Thalmeier , Raymond Hackley , Michael Walle , Bongsu Jeon , Mark Greer , netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Path forward for NFC in the kernel Message-ID: <20260421071044.67a3cee1@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: <1725ea8d-ac1f-49d2-8d8c-2e09721454c2@ixit.cz> References: <20260416101041.4c533306@kernel.org> <9c4a4acf-b4f1-4e84-93bf-cdf080cb9970@kernel.org> <1725ea8d-ac1f-49d2-8d8c-2e09721454c2@ixit.cz> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:12:22 +0200 David Heidelberg wrote: > > +Cc David Heidelberg recently trying to use Linux NFC stack, > > > > Just "collecting" patches is not a big deal, I could do this, but > > actually reviewing the patches with necessary due diligence is the > > effort I could not provide in a reasonable time frame. And picking up > > patches without proper review feels risky... > > Hello Krzystof, Jakub, > > thanks for putting me into loop. > > I can do limited reviews and basic maintenance. My knowledge about NFC is for > now somehow limited (but I'm willing to invest my limited time into learning more). > > As "I & LLM" wrote [1] userspace very basic reader for GNOME and planning to do > more tight integration into GNOME, so would make sense to keep the kernel stack > alive. Hi David! Sorry for the delay, we (core maintainers) discussed the situation off-list and since our choices are either delete all this code or give you a chance, everyone agreed that the latter is strictly better :) It's a little unusual to designate someone who doesn't have a proven track record acting as a de facto maintainer, but such are the times... Our expectation would be that: - you'd create your own tree to gather NFC patches and send us periodic pull requests every 2 or 3 weeks, with what you gathered - act upon submissions within 48h of posting (excluding weekends) Of course we'll happy to provide any support and guidance you need, specially for the first few months. Is this what you had in mind? The phrase "limited reviews and basic maintenance" is slightly worrying, we assumed it's an expression of modesty rather than commitment? :)